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TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22985 posts
status 20th Jan '13
Quoting speaktruth2powr:" Yes, these were not intentional acts of violence. But, it is pointing out that guns in the hands of ... [snip!] ... The NRA scares people into believing that the fact that they own a gun makes them less of a target. Which is not true."


Of course they are less of a target.
Ask a criminal who is he more likly to rob or attack - an armed person or household or an unarmed person/household.

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
20th Jan '13

It just amazes me how many people on here are willing to kill someone just because they're breaking into your house. Why is it automatically assumed that just because they're climbing through your kitchen window they're going to kill your family?

¡VinHaute! Memphis, Tennessee 44467 posts
20th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Destiel:</b>" It just amazes me how many people on here are willing to kill someone just because they're breaking into ... [snip!] ... is it automatically assumed that just because they're climbing through your kitchen window they're going to kill your family?"</blockquote>




Well they aint breaking and entering to bake me cookies.



Its also my legal right to do so so.. Im gonna go with that.

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
20th Jan '13
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¡VinHaute! Memphis, Tennessee 44467 posts
20th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Destiel:</b>" Isn't there reasonable force laws in the US? Or are you allowed to shoot anyone who steps through your door in the head?"</blockquote>




The latter. And being such a common law, criminals should reasonably know what to expect when they break into a house where the owners are proficient in gun use.

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
20th Jan '13
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¡VinHaute! Memphis, Tennessee 44467 posts
20th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Destiel:</b>" that is just terrifying that the whole country is so indifferent to murder. Here you are allowed to ... [snip!] ... times in our front yard when he went to check on a noise. According to American law I should have just opened fire on them hey?"</blockquote>




Depends on that states castle laws but, I would have. I would have at least threatened them - a pretty natural response to being threatened yourself.

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
20th Jan '13
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¡VinHaute! Memphis, Tennessee 44467 posts
20th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Destiel:</b>" I called the cops, who proceeded to turn up and chase them up the street. I'm sorry but having the death ... [snip!] ... 12 year old on my conscious is not something I could handle ... I'm glad that Americans must have harder hearts than me."</blockquote>




Youre lumping us in some large group.. Rest assured not all americans subscribe to these ideals then.
But yes, if you arent willing to shoot to kill, you probably shouldnt own a gun in the first place.

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
20th Jan '13
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¡VinHaute! Memphis, Tennessee 44467 posts
20th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Destiel:</b>" To me that's extremely disturbing"</blockquote>




To me, thats dog eat dog.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22985 posts
status 20th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Destiel:</b>" I called the cops, who proceeded to turn up and chase them up the street. I'm sorry but having the death ... [snip!] ... 12 year old on my conscious is not something I could handle ... I'm glad that Americans must have harder hearts than me."</blockquote>




I wouldn't have shot at a bunch of kids BUT I might have shot the Geoff to scare the HEll out of them.... Or not. It depends on the situation.
And, if so wine is breaking in to MY house, they are assuming a great deal of KNOWN risk.
I'd give warning but they'd certainly be at risk for being maimed or worse. But, the knowingly accept that risk when they have nefarious intent.

Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8554 posts
20th Jan '13
Quoting Destiel:" To me that's extremely disturbing"


It's extremely disturbing to me too.
Unfortunately we have so many citizens to whom "personal rights" are more important than anything else. It is one of the most defining things about our culture, but we aren't all like that.

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
20th Jan '13
Quoting Stfu Shirley:" It's extremely disturbing to me too. Unfortunately we have so many citizens to whom "personal rights" ... [snip!] ... are more important than anything else. It is one of the most defining things about our culture, but we aren't all like that."


I know a lot of people with guns, they're not 100% illegal here. However we tend to use them for Roo shooting or rabbit culling ... not a single person I know would think about using them against another person. In fact our gun laws are to the degree where it would difficult. Here if you have guns they have to be housed in a specially designed locker that the police WILL come around and check routinely. Also all ammunition must be kept in a separate locker in a different room of the house and completely out of reach of children.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22985 posts
status 20th Jan '13
Quoting Destiel:" I know a lot of people with guns, they're not 100% illegal here. However we tend to use them for Roo ... [snip!] ... all ammunition must be kept in a separate locker in a different room of the house and completely out of reach of children. "


i dont know a lot about gun laws here, but some states have very strict regs about gun storage and ammo storage. Police cant just randomly search your home to see if you are doing it, but most gun owners are VERY responsible and take safetyt seriously.
We arent a bunch of idiots with loaded guns sitting on tables.
Overwhelmingly, guns here are just here for sport and hunting. we arent a paranoid nation.