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Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8555 posts
20th Jan '13
Quoting eKnuckles:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Stfu Shirley:</b>" Because there would be no benefit to the ... [snip!] ... There are already gun laws in place (for certain types etc) and they are trying to introduce new ones now."


Yes, I am well aware and in full support of those laws and restrictions.



The American government has no intentions to "take everyone's guns away" and they have nothing to gain from it either.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23132 posts
21st Jan '13
Quoting eKnuckles:" Just curious, pretend it is illegal all over the u.s. (or wherever you are if it hasnt already happened ... [snip!] ... be major implications (jail). What do you do? Return them? Keep them and hide? Would you replace them with something else?"


in that scenario, I'd "lose" my guns in a boating incident.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23132 posts
21st Jan '13
Quoting Stfu Shirley:" Yes, I am well aware and in full support of those laws and restrictions. The American government has no intentions to "take everyone's guns away" and they have nothing to gain from it either."


What does the government have to gain from limiting ammo and the type of gun?

Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8555 posts
21st Jan '13
Quoting TheNuge:" What does the government have to gain from limiting ammo and the type of gun?"


:roll:
They appease the masses calling for gun control without actually taking anything away from the gun nuts. We keep our stupid 2nd Amendment intact, the politicians look like they care, it doesn't cost a whole bunch of money, and it is ever so slightly less possible to kill quite so many people in a matter of seconds. Maybe it will save lives. Maybe not. But it also sends a message that the NRA might just not be in charge. I think these restrictions are a cop-out though. I have nothing against the concept of a marksmanship club, but when they're influencing politics to make more money with which to exert greater influence over politics, well then fuck them.



I would personally like much tighter restrictions, but even a socialist bleeding heart gun-hating liberal like me doesn't see the point in taking ALL the guns away. We need hunters, for example. All those poor widdle deer will starve to death if we don't kill and eat some of them. Plus, cooked properly, venison is pretty delicious.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23132 posts
21st Jan '13
Quoting Stfu Shirley:" :roll: They appease the masses calling for gun control without actually taking anything away from the ... [snip!] ... widdle deer will starve to death if we don't kill and eat some of them. Plus, cooked properly, venison is pretty delicious."


Well, i dont see that as a gain for the government and it's not the government's job to apease the masses.
I'm in favor of the government supporting better mental health for people and families suffering with mental illness. That would have a much bigger impact on mass shootings, drug abuse, broken families, suicide, homelessness and alcoholism.
2% of gun deaths are from the controversial guns. There are so many other, more impactful things that can be done for public health rather than restricting EVERYONE because a a minute number of incidents from mentally ill people.

user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
21st Jan '13

Throw the notice away since I don't own any guns. :lol:



Really, I wouldn't care. If I owned a gun, it'd be because I hunted but I can hunt with a bow so it's kind of a 'meh' thing for me.



I infinitely prefer shooting an arrow than shooting a gun in the first place.

Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8555 posts
21st Jan '13
Quoting TheNuge:" Well, i dont see that as a gain for the government and it's not the government's job to apease the ... [snip!] ... can be done for public health rather than restricting EVERYONE because a a minute number of incidents from mentally ill people."


Do you have a lot of experience with mental illness?

user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
21st Jan '13
Quoting Stfu Shirley:" Do you have a lot of experience with mental illness?"


That's another reason why I don't keep guns in my house.



I live with a bipolar who has horrible impulse control issues when manic. He's ODd on caffeine pills before in a manic state and doesn't even know why he did it other than that it sounded like a good idea at the time. :?



The last thing I need is him thinking shooting someone is a good idea. Plus, his his uncle killed himself with a shotgun 20 years ago. So if he wasn't manic and thinking about shooting people, he'd forever be worried his kids would do what his uncle did and kill themselves.

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
21st Jan '13
Quoting Saffy Sly:" That's another reason why I don't keep guns in my house. I live with a bipolar who has horrible impulse ... [snip!] ... manic and thinking about shooting people, he'd forever be worried his kids would do what his uncle did and kill themselves."


So, do you hide all of the knives, hammers, etc, along with every OTC medication in your home??



Just curious.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23132 posts
21st Jan '13
Quoting Stfu Shirley:" Do you have a lot of experience with mental illness?"


I have some experience with it in my family. I have worked in hospitals and covered the psych units.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23132 posts
21st Jan '13
Quoting Saffy Sly:" That's another reason why I don't keep guns in my house. I live with a bipolar who has horrible impulse ... [snip!] ... manic and thinking about shooting people, he'd forever be worried his kids would do what his uncle did and kill themselves."


Sorry to hear that. and, you are wise in not keeping guns in the home.

user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
21st Jan '13
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" So, do you hide all of the knives, hammers, etc, along with every OTC medication in your home?? Just curious."


It is not necessary for me to keep a gun in my home. I do need to use knives, a hammer, and medications frequently.



I never even implied that I would take guns away from people; just that I wouldn't own one. You sound a bit defensive over how I run my household which is a bit odd. My husband is uncomfortable around guns since his uncle killed himself with one 20 years ago. Any medications remotely dangerous are kept locked away where I'm the only one that can access them. Hammers and knives are not the kind of thing he'd go for because they require close contact and are messy.



Guns are dangerous because they can be used from a distance. It still might be messy but it wouldn't require him to get as close.




It's not just the weapon, it's the person as well.

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
21st Jan '13
Quoting Saffy Sly:" It is not necessary for me to keep a gun in my home. I do need to use knives, a hammer, and medications ... [snip!] ... It still might be messy but it wouldn't require him to get as close. It's not just the weapon, it's the person as well."


I'm not defensive at all.



I'm asking because you said that he took caffeine pills to OD on? It seems like a cry for help and I was just wondering how you handle keeping ANY of those sorts of things in the house, knowing that he could snap at any moment.



Living like that would scare me.

user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
21st Jan '13
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" I'm not defensive at all. I'm asking because you said that he took caffeine pills to OD on? It seems ... [snip!] ... keeping ANY of those sorts of things in the house, knowing that he could snap at any moment. Living like that would scare me."


The "tone" I picked up from the way the post was worded gave me that impression. My apologies.



He did when he was 18. That is what landed him in a mental health facility for 6 weeks. He's a lot better now but he still needs to be watched when he's manic and I do it. We've been together longer than his bipolar diagnosis but only by a few months. I agreed to love him in sickness and in health. *shrug* It's just part of life for me. When it gets to be part of life, it ceases to be frightening.

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
21st Jan '13
Quoting Saffy Sly:" The "tone" I picked up from the way the post was worded gave me that impression. My apologies. He did ... [snip!] ... in sickness and in health. *shrug* It's just part of life for me. When it gets to be part of life, it ceases to be frightening."


Well, knowing that it's kind of been a "journey" for both of you, eases my mind about your safety.



I think it takes great strength to choose to stay with someone struggling like that. The "scary" part was just simply because it's foreign to me. I meant no disrespect to you. On the contrary.



I wish him the very best, as I do you.



My posts lack inflection, I think. I don't mean for it to happen, but I don't use excessive smileys or emoticons and I think I'm blunt. Sorry 'bout that. I've been called on it before, so it's obviously something that I need to work on.