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* MRS KING * 2 kids; Whitesboro, Oklahoma 1550 posts
21st Jan '13

Guess i got a lil confused

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
21st Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Reise's Mommy:</b>" I didn't vote for either one of them, but while a little exaggerated I believe that is true, yes. Of ... [snip!] ... for him did vote for him because they were/are under the assumption they will not ever have to work and have told me that."</blockquote>



I have been told the exact same things, over and over again. People have been pretty blatant about wanting government bennies.

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
21st Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting LeTs*StArT*a*RiOt!:</b>" Key word. Assumed. Which is interesting since she said herself that it was an opinion. You put things in quotation marks also when you use material that you found on another website. "</blockquote>



I wouldn't have quoted something I said, myself. I did, in fact, find it in another thread on another website and didn't want to link back to kinda sorta protect who said it.



I just wanted opinions on the...opinion. :)

emerald01 1 child; Oregon 3943 posts
21st Jan '13
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" Do you think this opinion holds true? If not, why do you suppose Obama won, even after a dismal 4 years? ... [snip!] ... vote. And I will stick it to the rich, who are the reason you have nothing, cannot get anything, and will never have anything.""


I think that's the problem you don't realize why Obama won and why Romney lost.

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
21st Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting emerald01:</b>" I think that's the problem you don't realize why Obama won and why Romney lost. "</blockquote>



Do you?

Jane.Doe. Fukushima, Japan 2805 posts
21st Jan '13
Quoting Reise's Mommy:" I didn't vote for either one of them, but while a little exaggerated I believe that is true, yes. Of ... [snip!] ... for him did vote for him because they were/are under the assumption they will not ever have to work and have told me that."


While a lot of that is tragic, I would prefer lazy ass people without jobs to be on birth control ;)

* MRS KING * 2 kids; Whitesboro, Oklahoma 1550 posts
21st Jan '13
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting LeTs*StArT*a*RiOt!:</b>" Key word. Assumed. Which is interesting ... [snip!] ... another website and didn't want to link back to kinda sorta protect who said it. I just wanted opinions on the...opinion. :)"

Right now im on ebt benefits, and have been for about two months, when we moved and my husband had to take his cna classes. I hate being poor, as i grew up spoiled, but im glad for the help. I do think that people should be monitored more closely, and be making a large effort to find work, steady work.

Reise's Mommy 2 kids; Kentucky 1724 posts
21st Jan '13
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Reise's Mommy:</b>" I didn't vote for either one of them, but ... [snip!] ... I have been told the exact same things, over and over again. People have been pretty blatant about wanting government bennies."


I remember when being on government assistance was something people were embarrassed about. That doesn't seem the case anymore, not that anyone should be ashamed of needing help, but flashing it around and bragging that you don't have to work because you're on assistance? That just annoys me. And the people that do work make too much to get any assistance, even if they can't feed their families.

Reise's Mommy 2 kids; Kentucky 1724 posts
21st Jan '13
Quoting Mrs. Reynolds:" While a lot of that is tragic, I would prefer lazy ass people without jobs to be on birth control ;)"


Oh for sure hahaha. But telling someone who is paying taxes they shouldn't mind paying them because they're paying for their free birth control? Oy.



I also find it sad the people that are so stuck in the mindset that they need government assistance that they can't imagine doing anything without it. My little sister has a friend who is 19, engaged to a friend of mine, actually. She has a one year old by someone else, lives with her parents and her and her fiance TRIED to conceive the one she's pregnant with now and she's only ever worked one week in her entire life and quit because "it was too stressful." It was Taco Bell. Come on. Now she's bitching that she has to wait a year to move into their own place because the waiting list at the section 8 housing is too long and all I can think is if it bothers you that you have to wait so long why don't you just find a job so you don't need section 8?? She's constantly posting how she needs a job but she never goes out and looks for one. It just baffles me. I guess I'd just rather be in charge of my own life than letting someone else decide everything for me.

emerald01 1 child; Oregon 3943 posts
21st Jan '13
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting emerald01:</b>" I think that's the problem you don't realize why Obama won and why Romney lost. "</blockquote> Do you?"

I believe so. That quote is way off. Romney had to say things to get Republican support which turns a lot of moderate voters off and he talked down to a lot of people. Obama didn't want people to be dependent on government but for it to work for the people and not just the few.

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
21st Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting * MRS KING *:</b>" Right now im on ebt benefits, and have been for about two months, when we moved and my husband had to ... [snip!] ... for the help. I do think that people should be monitored more closely, and be making a large effort to find work, steady work. "</blockquote>




It's hard to find work, when there is little work to be found.



EVERYONE deserves a hand-UP. NO ONE deserves a hand-OUT.



Which begs the question: Why elect a government that makes job creation so difficult? Why not encourage job creation? Nothing in this economy encourages job creation.

Jane.Doe. Fukushima, Japan 2805 posts
21st Jan '13
Quoting Reise's Mommy:" Oh for sure hahaha. But telling someone who is paying taxes they shouldn't mind paying them because ... [snip!] ... It just baffles me. I guess I'd just rather be in charge of my own life than letting someone else decide everything for me."


Ugh yeh people like that need to be sterilized >.<



I've been on assistance, I was a single mom and struggling to find work. The second I got a job I called them and told them, and asked them to turn off my benefits. It's fine for when you need it, but people DO depend on it and have no intentions of going off it. Which is sad. It isen't bottomless now is it? Back when I had to use it I was told there was a 5 year a lifetime limit of benefits.

Jasmine❤️ 3 kids; Fullerton, CA, United States 1921 posts
21st Jan '13

Nope. Because Obama never once said anything about "free stuff, ebt, or poor people". Check out all of his speeches and let me know when he said something about them being his main priority. lol. He's always mentioned the middle class, creating jobs, raising taxes on the wealthy, education, women's rights and pretty much everything that benefits the middle class. So that opinion is straight bull shit. The only people who ever mentioned "free stuff" is when the right wingnuts assumed that's all Obama cared about.

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
21st Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting emerald01:</b>" I believe so. That quote is way off. Romney had to say things to get Republican support which turns a ... [snip!] ... a lot of people. Obama didn't want people to be dependent on government but for it to work for the people and not just the few."</blockquote>



I think that people don't like hearing the truth, honestly. Romney isn't the monster that he is painted out to be. For instance, Romney said, with conviction, that if Obama was re-elected, Jeep would move to China. It was dubbed "The lie of the year".



Two or three days ago, Jeep announced they were starting to manufacture in China, with 300 lost jobs and more coming as production moved.



Romney didn't lie.



That's just one example.



It's not what Obama SAYS that is the problem, it's what he DOES or DOESN'T do that speaks volumes about him and his intentions. He has not improved a thing. Anything that has been improved has been offset by debt.



I stick with the point that Keynesian thinking is detrimental and does not work. You cannot spend your way out of debt unless you PRODUCE something that will give you a return on your money. There's no return to speak of. Working people turns into an economy that is stimulated. Working people PAY MORE TAXES. We shouldn't have to raise taxes on those that actually pay them. If we had more taxpayers, the mere volumes of taxpayers would suffice.

Jasmine❤️ 3 kids; Fullerton, CA, United States 1921 posts
21st Jan '13
Quoting Mrs. Reynolds:" Ugh yeh people like that need to be sterilized >.< I've been on assistance, I was a single ... [snip!] ... is sad. It isen't bottomless now is it? Back when I had to use it I was told there was a 5 year a lifetime limit of benefits."



Yes. Well in California there is a 48 month limit. And I don't know how ANYONE can survive only off ebt. I had the max amount one time for a family of 3 which was 608 and i still needed a job. California is f**king expensive. You are considered low income if you make under 50 k a year in my area.