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LoveMyBubbaBoy 2 kids; Michigan 3195 posts
23rd Jan '13
Quoting Supafly★:" That makes sense but I think it's going to take awhile for that to happen. Unfortunately those on premiums ... [snip!] ... for it because my kids and I would be screwed without it] and I can only see it get worse and worse when everyone is on it. "


I wish they would have tried to make medicaid better instead of making a whole new thing that changes everything for everyone... I am all for helping people who need it. I just think it could have been tried differently before jumping to Obamacare.

Supafly★ 2 kids; Poland 14304 posts
23rd Jan '13
Quoting LoveMyBubbaBoy:" I wish they would have tried to make medicaid better instead of making a whole new thing that changes ... [snip!] ... I am all for helping people who need it. I just think it could have been tried differently before jumping to Obamacare."


Agreed. It's great in theory but it has so many flaws, it's not even funny.

Tig Ol' Bitties 2 kids; St Catharines, Ontario 3311 posts
23rd Jan '13

No.



In Canada I have never had a lengthy wait to see my family doctor. Children get peditricians if you wish to have one, or you can see a GP. We have full prenatal care (Unlimited ultrasounds if a doctor/midwife requests them), access to a midwife and in certain cases fertility treatment (specialists and in serious cases IVF).



The only thing that I don't love is a lengthy wait in the ER,( which can be hours) but I'm not certain how long you guys wait over there

LoveMyBubbaBoy 2 kids; Michigan 3195 posts
23rd Jan '13
Quoting That-Girl:" No. In Canada I have never had a lengthy wait to see my family doctor. Children get peditricians if ... [snip!] ... thing that I don't love is a lengthy wait in the ER,( which can be hours) but I'm not certain how long you guys wait over there"


That's good to know! Not what my family told me lol but I'm glad it's untrue for you!

Supafly★ 2 kids; Poland 14304 posts
23rd Jan '13
Quoting That-Girl:" No. In Canada I have never had a lengthy wait to see my family doctor. Children get peditricians if ... [snip!] ... thing that I don't love is a lengthy wait in the ER,( which can be hours) but I'm not certain how long you guys wait over there"


The same, depending on where you live.

Tig Ol' Bitties 2 kids; St Catharines, Ontario 3311 posts
23rd Jan '13
Quoting LoveMyBubbaBoy:" That's good to know! Not what my family told me lol but I'm glad it's untrue for you!"


Where does your family live?

LoveMyBubbaBoy 2 kids; Michigan 3195 posts
23rd Jan '13
Quoting That-Girl:" Where does your family live?"


All over... lol. I do have some in Ontario lots in Quebec and other places... I'm just glad what they said isn't the case.



I've also read it on here too. I wonder where those mama's are from.

Tig Ol' Bitties 2 kids; St Catharines, Ontario 3311 posts
23rd Jan '13
Quoting LoveMyBubbaBoy:" All over... lol. I do have some in Ontario lots in Quebec and other places... I'm just glad what they said isn't the case. I've also read it on here too. I wonder where those mama's are from."


Honestly I have seen a lot of Canadians on here that give completely false information. I have no idea why, lol.

Supafly★ 2 kids; Poland 14304 posts
23rd Jan '13
Quoting That-Girl:" Honestly I have seen a lot of Canadians on here that give completely false information. I have no idea why, lol."


Lol really? Just Canadians?

LoveMyBubbaBoy 2 kids; Michigan 3195 posts
23rd Jan '13
Quoting That-Girl:" Honestly I have seen a lot of Canadians on here that give completely false information. I have no idea why, lol."


Lol. Good thing you are here to straighten it all out. :)

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
23rd Jan '13
Quoting LoveMyBubbaBoy:" Lol. Good thing you are here to straighten it all out. :)"


This is an opinion piece...but they use hard data in it.



http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2009/07/28/statistics-show-canada-healthcare-is-inferior-to-american-system

Tig Ol' Bitties 2 kids; St Catharines, Ontario 3311 posts
23rd Jan '13
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" This is an opinion piece...but they use hard data in it. http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2009/07/28/statistics-show-canada-healthcare-is-inferior-to-american-system"


I'd say that data is questionable. It said that the Rebuplican Staff Economic Commitee compiled it. They would have a very vested interested in making national health care look inferior.



Keep in mind that IF those numbers are accurate they are taking into account huge rural areas and including them with the large cities. Essentially they are saying wait times are due to OHIP when they could simply be the product of having reduced access to services because someone lives in a small out of the way town. These issues are comman and experianced by rural inhabitants in the USA as well.



I live in a smallish city and have never known anyone to have to wait more than a week for surgery.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23152 posts
23rd Jan '13

Thanks liberals!
Thanks non-liberals who didn't get off their asses to vote for Romney!



It's only going to get worse. Sorry I'm a downer about this but it is reality.

Samefa Delano, Minnesota 432 posts
23rd Jan '13

You wont find many of our members debating on this one since many are on medicaid...and always encourage to get on medicaid everything is free for them..well yes for them but they should thank the taxpayers! My premiums go up every year while my salary goes down...I am considering finding away to get medicaid I can't afford to take care of myseld anymore my kid goes when she needs to of course but this isn't right I hate the health care and I hate the entitlement mentality..Ironically I work in health care and the most frequent fliers have medicaid!!!

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
23rd Jan '13

why dont your hospitals just refuse care to people that dont have insurance or pay up front?