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Drunk Blair Waldorf 2 kids; Alpharetta, Georgia 19208 posts
24th Jan '13
Quoting Socialist:" I disagree with the draft, I think it needs to be an all or nothing thing. Part of me leans towards ... [snip!] ... months of military service, but I haven't quite finished thinking that one through, so I'm not too sure of my opinion yet. "


That's what a lot of countries do. They require you to serve a certain amount of time in the military once you turn 18. You don't always get called up right at 18, but you serve before you hit a certain age. Everybody in the country does it. So they're never without able bodies and the majority of the adults there are equipped to fight if they ever needed it. Like unofficial reserves.

user banned 3 kids; Los Angeles, California 54034 posts
24th Jan '13
Quoting Socialist:" I disagree with the draft, I think it needs to be an all or nothing thing. Part of me leans towards ... [snip!] ... months of military service, but I haven't quite finished thinking that one through, so I'm not too sure of my opinion yet. "


Yeah, I dunno either. Like I said, I know jack about military stuff. I'm not feeling the draft though, for anyone.




Military stuff is unappealing to me, I'd definitely skip the country at 18 if I were going to have to join the military.

Socialist 1 child; Washington 17393 posts
24th Jan '13
Quoting Blair Waldorf (SuperKink):" That's what a lot of countries do. They require you to serve a certain amount of time in the military ... [snip!] ... able bodies and the majority of the adults there are equipped to fight if they ever needed it. Like unofficial reserves."


I've heard a lot of good things about it, and I can see the benefit. But, me being a liberal conspiracy theorist at heart, I don't know if I could dedicate that much to the gov't, as much as I love the assholes.



Like a special cousin that's a dick but you miss when you don't see them for a while

Drunk Blair Waldorf 2 kids; Alpharetta, Georgia 19208 posts
24th Jan '13
Quoting LeTs*StArT*a*RiOt!:" I'm all for it. As long as she can pull the same weight as a man doing the same job, she should be able ... [snip!] ... a female soldier be prescribed those pills and be instructed on how to stop her period for the length of time as her mission? "


That's an interesting aspect of the hygiene thing I never thought of. But I think the problem there might lie with some people not being able to tolerate that type of BC.

Bad Things 1 child; Blacksburg, SC, United States 18489 posts
status 24th Jan '13
Quoting Socialist:" I've heard a lot of good things about it, and I can see the benefit. But, me being a liberal conspiracy ... [snip!] ... gov't, as much as I love the assholes. Like a special cousin that's a dick but you miss when you don't see them for a while"


Ha ha!

Bad Things 1 child; Blacksburg, SC, United States 18489 posts
status 24th Jan '13

I wonder if they would have choice or not to be in the front.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23152 posts
24th Jan '13

I'm in favor of women having the same opportunity. If they can do the same as the men, fine. Some women will compete better than some men.
I am NOT in favor of different standards. If Duane has to do X and Y in Z time, so does Jane.
I suppose they will have to reevaluate the requirements for certain job descriptions. For instance, a combat pilot would have lesser physical requirments that the people on the ground who are kicking in doors.
If these parameters arent done already, i suppose this will keep a lot of people busy with paperwork for a long time.

user banned 33 kids; Blytheville, Arkansas 7534 posts
24th Jan '13
Quoting TheNuge:" I'm in favor of women having the same opportunity. If they can do the same as the men, fine. Some women ... [snip!] ... doors. If these parameters arent done already, i suppose this will keep a lot of people busy with paperwork for a long time."


I always love seeing your opinions on controversial topics. I agree with all of this.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23152 posts
24th Jan '13
Quoting The Andromeda Strain:" I always love seeing your opinions on controversial topics. I agree with all of this. "


Why thankya!

MamaAkemi 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Bowie, MD, United States 1397 posts
25th Jan '13

I know I'm late to the discussion, but I do have some points to throw in here.



I'm in the Air Force and I think it's great that they are allowing women in combat. However, I don't think that any 'ole woman will do. I believe that the women who want to enter combat should be able to perform at the same level of the men in that combat speciality.



Yes, women have easier standards for our PT test, that is true. This physical fitness standard is accross the board in the Air Force. I'm not aware of the combat speciality standards for men or women, but I would assume that they would hold the women to the same strict standards.



As for hygiene, we learned in basic to clean ourselves with baby wipes (a lot faster than the showers). We learned tips and tricks to be able to still remain clean with little to no showers (baby wipes and powders).



For sexual attraction, I will tell you that sex happens on the front lines and deployments no matter what. What about the gay men? Wouldn't they be distracted by other men on the front lines? I'm sure it's happened. Women would be a distraction, but they are charged as well with no sexual conduct. Genreal order one in deployed locations: No sex, no drinking, no sexually explicit materials. Does it happen anyway, pretty darn sure.

Ella Minnow Pea Delight, Arkansas 3914 posts
25th Jan '13

I'm not exactly sure how I feel about it. Like others have said already, the main concern is equal PT requirements, but I think that should be in place whether or not women are allowed on the front lines. Another big concern is pregnancy. Are these women going to be forced to be on BC or commit to celibacy to keep from getting pregnant during their enlistments? I know a lot of guys try to get out of deployments in various ways, and I can only imagine how many women could/would chicken out and purposely get pregnant to avoid deployment--which of course would mean someone else has to go in her place.



And what about fighting in some of the Arab countries where women are looked down on? I wonder if that could present any issues, like if female soldiers were taking people into custody or whatever.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23152 posts
25th Jan '13
Quoting Dahling:" I'm not exactly sure how I feel about it. Like others have said already, the main concern is equal PT ... [snip!] ... looked down on? I wonder if that could present any issues, like if female soldiers were taking people into custody or whatever."


It will be interesting when we have high-profile, female POWs. The media will go crazy.

Back to Noob Status Ohio 14048 posts
25th Jan '13

How many women could actually pass the test, in reality? I can't think of too many.

MamaAkemi 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Bowie, MD, United States 1397 posts
25th Jan '13
Quoting Back to Noob Status:" How many women could actually pass the test, in reality? I can't think of too many. "


Of which test? The basic Air Force test, or those for the combat roles?

There aren't a lot of women who can perform at the minimum standards for men. The Air Force has fitness charts that show how many points for push ups, sit ups, waist measurement and the 1.5 mile run and some people, even men, only go for the minimum.

Back to Noob Status Ohio 14048 posts
25th Jan '13
Quoting MamaAkemi:" Of which test? The basic Air Force test, or those for the combat roles? There aren't a lot of women ... [snip!] ... many points for push ups, sit ups, waist measurement and the 1.5 mile run and some people, even men, only go for the minimum."


The ones for the combat roles.