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♥. 2 kids; making moves in, TX, United States 1114 posts
28th Jan '13
Quoting LeTs*StArT*a*RiOt!:" You're probably right. And as such, I'm actually going to apologize if I got more heated than usual ... [snip!] ... was screaming for literally no reason, and I was just done. Everybody is saying the same thing in a different way, so yeah. :)"


True. Lol

FroggysMommy 1 child; Golden, Colorado 27512 posts
status 28th Jan '13
Quoting BoogsMaMa:" Married or not, he did make a commitment to her i.e. a relationship which believe it or not is a commitment ... [snip!] ... like marriage also need comprimise. If no compromise can be made then the relationship may end, but that's about it. "


He made a commitment to her but NO commitment is at the expense of screwing up the values of your body.



It's funny how many girls are all "Oh man, vasectomy, NO! I want more kids, he's not thinking of MY wishes!" But oh man, if she didn't want sex or didnt want more kids and HE tried to pull that bullshit on her.... those girls would be going insane "ITS MY BODY! I am not carrying around something I dont want, or dont need!"



Oh, but forcing him is okay.... riiiiight!

MomDIA TTC since May 2008; 81 kids; Warminster, Pennsylvania 3812 posts
28th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting FroggysMommy:</b>" He made a commitment to her but NO commitment is at the expense of screwing up the values of your body. ... [snip!] ... "ITS MY BODY! I am not carrying around something I dont want, or dont need!" Oh, but forcing him is okay.... riiiiight!"</blockquote>




Did you just read 1 of my post and then run away with it in your head? I have already clarified that major decisions in any relationship should be agreed upon by both partners that would include a woman's decision with her body as well her partners opinion should be respected.

FroggysMommy 1 child; Golden, Colorado 27512 posts
status 28th Jan '13
Quoting BoogsMaMa:" <blockquote><b>Quoting FroggysMommy:</b>" He made a commitment to her but NO commitment ... [snip!] ... upon by both partners that would include a woman's decision with her body as well her partners opinion should be respected."


And I disagree.... yes I read what you said. Let's re-fucking-iterate what you said, and what I stated in my post and I'll state it again:
You said "Did you just read 1 of my post and then run away with it in your head? I have already clarified that major decisions in any relationship should be agreed upon by both partners that would include a woman's decision with her body as well her partners opinion should be respected."



No, I am sorry, it does NOT need to be agreed upon. Not every major decision needs to be agreed upon by both partners. As I said, her body, his body, their choice. I don't care who I am with or who my neighbor down the street is with, or even who YOU are with... it does NOT need to be agreed upon. It should be respected as you said, but seriously, agreed upon? No. My fucking body, my choice. It's not my nuts at stake with a vasectomy... so it's not my choice. Nothing will EVER convince me that my body should be AGREED UPON by anyone other than ME.

taking a look at life Palm beach gardens, FL, United States 49151 posts
28th Jan '13
Quoting LeTs*StArT*a*RiOt!:" No, I've been saying that the way you're wording things is wrong in my opinion. It's been made out like ... [snip!] ... same thing if you wanted an abortion and your husband didn't, or if a man wanted to sign a DNR and his wife was against that. "

when me and SO where not married and he was almost on life support I would have called his mom to she what she wanted as we had not talked about this before we have since talked about it and he told me to never sign a DNR for him. I will grant his wishes in less he comes back to me and tells me to sign one. He knows i do not want him to sign a DNR for me as well. But i agree u should talk about it and do as they please.

emerald01 1 child; Oregon 3943 posts
28th Jan '13

I wouldn't let my boyfriend get a vasectomy because in a relationship its a bonding thing and even though its his equipment I have some say over it especially when it can effect my future too. I had a couple guy friends that had some side effects or infection from it and that worries me; its sill surgery.

MomDIA TTC since May 2008; 81 kids; Warminster, Pennsylvania 3812 posts
29th Jan '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting FroggysMommy:</b>" And I disagree.... yes I read what you said. Let's re-fucking-iterate what you said, and what I stated ... [snip!] ... a vasectomy... so it's not my choice. Nothing will EVER convince me that my body should be AGREED UPON by anyone other than ME."</bl




No offense but communication and compromise are the whole Foundation of a relationship you should know that if you have ever had a successful 1. You decide to make major life decisions with your partner this includes buying a house buying a car having children and it sure is hell involves taking the ability a way to have children. No amount of cursing or repeating over and over again that it is his body his choice will change that truth

FroggysMommy 1 child; Golden, Colorado 27512 posts
status 29th Jan '13
Quoting BoogsMaMa:" <blockquote><b>Quoting FroggysMommy:</b>" And I disagree.... yes I read what you said. ... [snip!] ... to have children. No amount of cursing or repeating over and over again that it is his body his choice will change that truth"


Communication and compromise is essential. But when it comes to ones body... eh no. One may talk, they may decide to compromise, but in the end it is that persons decision and it should NOT be wavered against because the other person doesnt agree. Tony and I were together for 5 years... he wanted a vasectomy and I wanted another kid. I never pressured him, EVER. It's not my place.



Seriously, if some guy tried to get me to go against my beliefs and say, have an abortion or have a kid, or have sex, or do anything that involves MY body and he say "We are in a relationship, you should compromise!" Id tell him to get fucked. No one has any pull in my compromising my body, nor can I compromise his.



Now I agree it SHOULD be talked about in the beginning, the whole "I think 2-3 kids is great!" and a time period. BUT, in the end... if minds change, that's okay. It IS messed up if a guy lures a girl in by saying "I want 3 kids!" and he really only wants 1 or none and is just messing with her head. But if he truly changes his mind... well, that should be respected.



No one will ever cause me to compromise my own body, nor will I ever want a guy to compromise his too.