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FroggysMommy 1 child; Golden, Colorado 27055 posts
4th Feb '13
Quoting Mrs. Galeforce:" Ive done a lot of research on the recent shootings and Ive came across a lot of discrepencies in the ... [snip!] ... research and QUESTION more. Sheeple = People that dont question what they hear. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhLe2i8uFwc"


Wait.... you are one of the idiots that thinks the Aurora shooting was a conspiracy too? That the live coverage wasn't right... and they are f**king actors? You are a f**king MORON.



I guess my friends 12 year old son was an actor. So is my friend. Should I go dig up her posts about narrowly escaping death that night, and the fact she was thanking God her son had the wit to get out safely without questioning? Oh, I wont dig them up, she is probably just acting :p



As for people saying crap about laughing after someone close to you dies... my friend passed away and he was supposed to play at a rave a week later. We still threw that party in his honor and played a CD of his during his time slot. His family came. We were all laughing, hugging each other, and even his parents were laughing with us and said "Now we know why Taustin loved you all so much." The day of the funeral I LOST it. Guess who comforted me? His sister. She was smiling and telling me about what a craphead her brother was and how he kept the family on their toes. People grieve differently... and you know what, it's lovely to laugh in the name of grief. Sometimes laughing is all you can do in order to keep sane.

FroggysMommy 1 child; Golden, Colorado 27055 posts
4th Feb '13
Quoting LeTs*StArT*a*RiOt!:" I love you. I had to post on here to say that. I love how you said that and I love the points you made. People who like to make these conspiracy theories make me sick... "


Thank you :) I have a friend that I have been really irritated by lately. He posts conspiracy theory shit ALL the time. Posting stuff dating back to Columbine, and I remember that day as if it were yesterday. The Aurora shooting... to sign onto facebook and see a post that says "I almost died last night. My son could have been killed. I dont know if there is a God or not but something saved the entire group last night" and then see all the updates about the theater... it makes me SICK for people to say it was a conspiracy. Especially since she said she has to go into therapy. How she heard a car backfire and flipped. How she sat through a movie and couldnt pay attention because of what happened. Yes, I guess my friend was soooooo part of the conspiracy, her posts are to keep us on our toes!!! ARGH people are so dumb! I mean really, my friend posts shit and calls us "sheeple" too, but ya know, I say they are the sheep to run to the conspiracy bandwagon.



And to say someone doesnt grieve right... ugh. Seriously, having a party in my friends honor was what helped us get through that shit hole. He was the glue to our family... our family of friends. And we were DESTROYED. So we had to laugh. We had to smile. Otherwise we would of wanted to off ourselves in grief. I dont think you honor someone when you are sad your entire life and destroy your life in grief. Celebrate their life, don't mourn the loss, be thankful you had them in your life. There is a poem on my friends headstone and one of the lines is "And what is left, merely a memory." Let the memories rule you and make you smile... because the memories ARE what's left when someone is gone. Be glad the memories are there! Id be sad if I didnt have those precious moments in my life. I miss all of those that have left this life but ya know what, the memories are lovely and they keep me sane. So I smile. That's all you can do, that's all we should do.



I'd be destroyed if Lily were to pass away, but if I could think about times like her fingerpainting with yogurt in her room... coloring over the carebear mural I painted with some crayons she stashed in her crib and her saying "Mommy look color!" or her first choir solo... I'd have to smile at those. That would help me get by... and I hope if anything did happen to her I'd honor her by smiling and telling the world of what a lovely lady she was... and not dwell on how badly I hurt inside.

Mrs. Galeforce TTC since Apr 2013; 1 child; 2 angel babies; Titusville, FL, United States 2492 posts
5th Feb '13
Quoting -Kaysay-:" I've lost a TON of people in my life, but two years ago, within months of each other, I lost two really ... [snip!] ... going on. Who the f**k are you, or anyone for that matter, to judge how someone is processing their child's/loved one's death?"


Hes preparing himself for a role. You can see it how he starts getting himself ready. He went from laughing and smiling to saying, "okay" and then changing his whole demeanor to a sad state.
This is just one of the many things that just dont add up right.
Its also pretty ironic that both of the shooters Fathers from the recent shootings, Batman and Sandy hook, BOTH are to go on trail for a huge scandal called the LIBOR scandal. Its a real thing, read into the LIBOR scandals.



Its pointless to try and convince anyone of anything, you all will just have to do some real research yourselves.

Capt Plzen, Pl, Czech Republic 9110 posts
5th Feb '13

The word sheeple was used entirely too much in this thread. :x

GTFOGTFO 6 kids; Italy 5611 posts
5th Feb '13
Quoting Mrs. Galeforce:" Hes preparing himself for a role. You can see it how he starts getting himself ready. He went from laughing ... [snip!] ... scandals. Its pointless to try and convince anyone of anything, you all will just have to do some real research yourselves."


Oh, trust me... I've done the research and I'm way more involved in my state government than most people. I live in a VERY conservative state and I started a protest group that started on Facebook and turned into real-life protests at the capital with a HUGE turn out that ultimately helped get the Personhood bill shelved when we were completely outnumbered. I'm not just some, "I TRUST THE MEDIA!" retard.



What I'm trying to get across to you is that I'm far from a "sheeple", and it's actually insulting to someone that is more involved than these people claiming they are somehow "in the know" of the government when they don't do shit about ANYTHING politically. THEN, they somehow feel they have the superiority of knowledge on how a mourning parent's f**king grief should or shouldn't look like.



It's just amazing to me all these people with their dumb shit theories, yet you NEVER see THOSE people doing anything when we are out there protesting, calling our reps and senators, reading all the bills coming out and spreading with word. They're never there face to face talking to their state government officials, so how the f**k do they know what's REALLY going on in the government if their not even physically involved? Instead, they are sitting on their ass doing "internet research" and watch some extreme conspiracy a*****e on YouTube trying to make the crazy paranoia shit in their head make sense.

Amelia [a Mom] 1 child; 4 angel babies; Tallahassee, Florida 15356 posts
5th Feb '13

What I find hard to understand is why people are so willing to completely suspend logical thinking and disbelief to be grasping at straws like the parents didn't behave appropriately in a situation most have never experienced themselves.

GTFOGTFO 6 kids; Italy 5611 posts
5th Feb '13
Quoting Amelia Margaret:" What I find hard to understand is why people are so willing to completely suspend logical thinking and ... [snip!] ... to be grasping at straws like the parents didn't behave appropriately in a situation most have never experienced themselves."


Right? It's f**king disgusting, really. "Oh, he was preparing himself to get into character." Was he?! Or maybe, his baby girl was just murdered. Perhaps he was nervous, scared, and depressed. Why do people think it's so f**king crazy for him to laugh and gather his thoughts, that were probably reaching the brink of insanity, before he went on camera in front of the entire f**king world?



Maybe someone said something funny? Maybe he was sharing a memory that made him laugh? Maybe it was a defense mechanism so he wouldn't lose it on camera?



Bottom line, why the f**k does it even matter when it's not an uncommon response to grief in the first place? I just don't understand the audacity of some people....

Amelia [a Mom] 1 child; 4 angel babies; Tallahassee, Florida 15356 posts
5th Feb '13
Quoting -Kaysay-:" Right? It's f**king disgusting, really. "Oh, he was preparing himself to get into character." Was he?! ... [snip!] ... matter when it's not an uncommon response to grief in the first place? I just don't understand the audacity of some people...."


And honestly, who has the energy to be crying 24/7? I don't think that's reasonable at all.

Booger & Bubba's Mommy 18 kids; Illinois 8136 posts
5th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mrs. Galeforce:</b>" Hes preparing himself for a role. You can see it how he starts getting himself ready. He went from laughing ... [snip!] ... scandals. Its pointless to try and convince anyone of anything, you all will just have to do some real research yourselves."</blockquote>




Looking into libor wouldn't make sense. Mainstream media isn't covering it therefore it doesn't exist.
Looking into the psychotropic drugs all the recent shooters were on isn't logical, for goodness sake they were prescribed. It's not like major mood altering drugs could be the key.

Booger & Bubba's Mommy 18 kids; Illinois 8136 posts
5th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting -Kaysay-:</b>" Right? It's f**king disgusting, really. "Oh, he was preparing himself to get into character." Was he?! ... [snip!] ... matter when it's not an uncommon response to grief in the first place? I just don't understand the audacity of some people...."</blockquote>




Yes he could have been upset.



The audacity is believing everything you are told. Instead of looking further, researching or just not being completely gullible.



I'm not saying it didn't happen. Just that all the people in front of the cameras aren't to be believed as 100% factual. Several have been proven to have SAG memberships several have been tied to different government cover ups.




It is being used to further the agenda of the anti gun lobbiests. Why ban high capacity clips? Were any used? NO. Why ban assault rifles? Were any used? NO why ban conceal carry?

GTFOGTFO 6 kids; Italy 5611 posts
5th Feb '13
Quoting Booger & Bubba's Mommy:" <blockquote><b>Quoting -Kaysay-:</b>" Right? It's f**king disgusting, really. "Oh, ... [snip!] ... lobbiests. Why ban high capacity clips? Were any used? NO. Why ban assault rifles? Were any used? NO why ban conceal carry?"


I'm assuming you didn't read my above post? I'm FAR from believing anything. I started a group that has held protests at the capitol, have spoke to our senators, we've helped overturn bills, I'm constantly e-mailing and calling my officials. I don't believe our government for SHIT, because I talk to them myself.



Saying the shooting was a conspiracy is horse shit and fucked up. The government is totally using the tragedy to their advantage, but to say it was "staged" just shows how unaware all of you are.

Fat-and-Happy TTC since Mar 2008; 1 child; Texas 13915 posts
5th Feb '13

Found this on tumblr... reminded me of this debate



tumblr_mgw6zqRbev1qdml1do1_500.jpgI was speaking with a Black friend of mine earlier today about this and he brought up a great point. The Elite, White media can literally stir an entire Nation into a frenzy over the massacre of 20 suburban white children but simply overlook the deaths of over 100 Black children in Chicago. Wake up, People, you re being played by the Government and the Media. All children should be equal in the eyes of our Government.

Booger & Bubba's Mommy 18 kids; Illinois 8136 posts
5th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting -Kaysay-:</b>" I'm assuming you didn't read my above post? I'm FAR from believing anything. I started a group that ... [snip!] ... government is totally using the tragedy to their advantage, but to say it was "staged" just shows how unaware all of you are."</blockquote>



I'm not saying it was staged. I'm saying it is being way overused to the lobbiests advantage.
All the facts & truths will never come out. Too many things don't add up or are altered to suit someone's agendas.



Many people are way to offended by people not believing everything as truth cause someone they "know" was affected. It's not about them. It's about the truth not what the government wants the American peoe to believe.

GTFOGTFO 6 kids; Italy 5611 posts
5th Feb '13
Quoting Fat-and-Happy:" Found this on tumblr... reminded me of this debate I was speaking with a Black friend of mine earlier ... [snip!] ... up, People, you re being played by the Government and the Media. All children should be equal in the eyes of our Government."


They pick and choose what to broadcast based on the agenda. In their eyes, the Sandy Hook tragedy was great timing for them to start up the gun control bull shit. But what people don't realize is that this shit happens day after day.



I just posted in another thread this morning about how the U.S. is so incredibly sheltered in comparison to the majority of the other countries. Our people do not know shit about what is going on, so they are left to their imaginations and come up with crazy shit.

GTFOGTFO 6 kids; Italy 5611 posts
5th Feb '13
Quoting Booger & Bubba's Mommy:" <blockquote><b>Quoting -Kaysay-:</b>" I'm assuming you didn't read my above post? ... [snip!] ... they "know" was affected. It's not about them. It's about the truth not what the government wants the American peoe to believe."


I agree with you on that... they are totally using it to their advantage. But I think people are way to overly analytical on how the situation played out. It was a bat-shit crazy situation... of course there is going to be mix-ups and false reports.