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user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
1st Feb '13
Quoting justanothamotha:" WTF? No one is shrugging & you are just being ridiculous now. It has been said OVER & OVER - ... [snip!] ... thinks that Apartheid was the way it "used to be" as of this stuff is not longer applicable to current cultural climates."


The holocaust was real. America and the rest of the world ignored it. I think it's shameful. What point are you trying to make?

eKnuckles Due February 13; Florida 3473 posts
1st Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" It's "hideous" but we shouldn't help the situation in any way? I like the way you say that I think like your 5 year old."</blockquote>




Haha yeah I thought was pretty funny, too! :D

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
1st Feb '13
Quoting eKnuckles:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" It's "hideous" but we shouldn't help ... [snip!] ... I like the way you say that I think like your 5 year old."</blockquote> Haha yeah I thought was pretty funny, too! :D"


Not nearly as funny as when you or that other poster said that the Taliban was more humane? merciful?...something like that...because they beheaded and it was quick.



Good stuff.

eKnuckles Due February 13; Florida 3473 posts
1st Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" Not nearly as funny as when you or that other poster said that the Taliban was more humane? merciful?...something like that...because they beheaded and it was quick. Good stuff."</blockquote>



Well, I wasnt talkig about the Taliban. But yes I definetly think it's more humane than torturing someone to death, which if you read what i wrote, that's what I said.



Also, how come you like to ignore my posts? About all the relevent and current murders Christians are committing? Is it too hard of a truth for you to address?

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
1st Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting eKnuckles:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" Not nearly as funny as when you or ... [snip!] ... my posts? About all the relevent and current murders Christians are committing? Is it too hard of a truth for you to address?"</blockquote>



Links?

justanothamotha Due January 20; 130 kids; Climax, Michigan 5120 posts
1st Feb '13
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" It's "hideous" but we shouldn't help the situation in any way? I like the way you say that I think like your 5 year old."

If you think last year was ancient history, then you do think like him. I never said that - I also gave other examples. You are the one that threw yourself into that level of category. If you think things like Rwanda, Darfur, & Nigeria, aren't "current" enough then my default, Bosnia is ancient history and geez - the holocaust was before written time almost.



I am not sure you understand the difference between what we can settle & what we can't fix from the outside. Our wonderful idea of vaccinating Nigerians against resulted in the worst outbreak of polio in modern history in 2009. Our idea of studying circing adult men now has serious implications because 74% of the men circed are self reporting not using protection since they do not believe they need it & in some areas there is a serious problem with adult men being circed against their will with some false idea that it will prevent the spread of HIV. It seems MANY times when we think we are helping, we aren't actually helping anything, and this is PEACEFUL stuff we are talking about here. I don't have any confidence that if we did step in, that we actually would make it better. We don't seem to actually have a real grip on how to do that too well. To get an idea of what I mean you should watch "No End in Sight" to see exactly how well planned our invasion of Iraq was & what we did & what we let happen there as well.

eKnuckles Due February 13; Florida 3473 posts
1st Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting justanothamotha:</b>" If you think last year was ancient history, then you do think like him. I never said that - I also gave ... [snip!] ... in Sight" to see exactly how well planned our invasion of Iraq was & what we did & what we let happen there as well."</blockquote>



I think your comment is well thought out, but sadly Julie just won't see it because YOU DIDNT POST LINKS THEREFORE ITS FALSE AND DOES NOT CONCERN HER!
Of course, someone who does not want to be called intentionally ignorant would look these things up herself, for her own benefit.

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
1st Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting eKnuckles:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting justanothamotha:</b>" If you think last year was ancient history, ... [snip!] ... course, someone who does not want to be called intentionally ignorant would look these things up herself, for her own benefit."</blockquote>



I Googled many times but can't find the examples you speak of.



That's why I asked you for links, so I could address these things, specifically.



But, you seem to really be in touch with who I am and what my concerns are or aren't, so carry on.

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
1st Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting justanothamotha:</b>" If you think last year was ancient history, then you do think like him. I never said that - I also gave ... [snip!] ... in Sight" to see exactly how well planned our invasion of Iraq was & what we did & what we let happen there as well."</blockquote>




Well, THIS is an actual answer to the OP. At least I can understand your reasoning behind it.



The posters on the first couple of pages on this thread DID just chalk it up to, "tit for tat" and I thought that was a fairly poor reason to not step in.



Everyone on earth could hide under a religious guise, I suppose, when the reality is that it's political. The lines have been (intentionally?) blurred, it would seem.

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
1st Feb '13
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting eKnuckles:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting justanothamotha:</b>" ... [snip!] ... these things, specifically. But, you seem to really be in touch with who I am and what my concerns are or aren't, so carry on."


Woe you can't find information on Darfur, Rwanda or Bosnia? Do you live in China where the internet is restricted?




Darfur.
http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/genocide/genocide-in-sudan.htm



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4012311.stm



Rwanda



http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/genocide/genocide_in_rwanda.htm



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1288230.stm

eKnuckles Due February 13; Florida 3473 posts
1st Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Destiel:</b>" Woe you can't find information on Darfur, Rwanda or Bosnia? Do you live in China where the internet ... [snip!] ... Rwanda http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/genocide/genocide_in_rwanda.htm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1288230.stm"</blockquote>




Lol, I know. Type in the names of those countries and the pop up immediately.



As for the LRA http://www.warchild.org.uk/issues/the-lords-resistance-army

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
1st Feb '13
Quoting Destiel:" Woe you can't find information on Darfur, Rwanda or Bosnia? Do you live in China where the internet ... [snip!] ... Rwanda http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/genocide/genocide_in_rwanda.htm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/1288230.stm"


Okay, so in Darfur, it's Muslims killing Muslims....



And in Rwanda, it's the government against its people...



...and you're right, the Bosnia ordeal was definitely initiated (from what that one article said) by the Serbs...BUT...there was intervention (too late, IMO) and there were arrests and these people are being prosecuted for crimes against humanity.



Only the last example was of a religious nature. No matter, an intervention happened.



So why, when I suggest that we intervene in matters such as these, am I told, "No", "bad idea", "we'd screw it up (in a nutshell)"?



Anymore links to back up your comparable claim that Christians are as bad? (or so you implied).

user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
1st Feb '13

Child "witches" of Nigeria?



Innocent children are being killed for being "witches" as declared by their church's pastor.

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
1st Feb '13
Quoting eKnuckles:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Destiel:</b>" Woe you can't find information on Darfur, Rwanda ... [snip!] ... of those countries and the pop up immediately. As for the LRA http://www.warchild.org.uk/issues/the-lords-resistance-army"


Kony and his minions are nutjobs. I knew about him (them) but had forgotten.



Again....still...he's being sought after.



Don't you get it? My whole point of this post was not to point fingerss at any one particular group. I do happen to think that radical Muslims are the most hostile group out there or, at least, doing the most damage, but that's not the question or debate here.



If ANY group of people was annihilating another group of people for ANY REASON (other than defensively), should we, as America, step in?



I even asked it in the title!



The answer I got in this thread was an overwhelming "No"...which surprised me.

Mama Rice 34 kids; North Las Vegas, Nevada 11980 posts
1st Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" Kony and his minions are nutjobs. I knew about him (them) but had forgotten. Again....still...he's ... [snip!] ... step in? I even asked it in the title! The answer I got in this thread was an overwhelming "No"...which surprised me."</blockquote>



That is part of the problem.....if it is happening in America then yes we should. However unless we are asked for help, as much of a tragedy it is, we should stay back. The resounding opinion of Americans I have heard is more negative than positive. Our "world police" stance has created a lot of hatred towards us. Yes it is sad, sad and horrible things happen everyday. However with all the people we have in our country struggling you would think strengthening ourself should be priority #1. I do have sympathy for the victims of these atrocities.