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    • only if you dontate can you receive on organ -- Votes: 6
    • anyone should be able to get an organ -- Votes: 28
meggymama Due July 30; 97 kids; United Kingdom 510 posts
3rd Feb '13
Quoting xTJ:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Dahling:</b>" Good point. Especially with blood donations--you ... [snip!] ... one? Also in the UK gay men cannot donate blood either so should all gay men be left to die if they need a blood transfusion?"


Is this still true? god, thats disgusting! I cannot donate becauase i have the lupus but i would think twice knowing this, it makes me sick

KissMeFinnNelson<3 1 child; 2 angel babies; Glasgow, Scotland, UK, United Kingdom 5396 posts
3rd Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Im watching you:</b>" no i wasn't just looking for people to agree with me , it was a question and as you can see i seem ... [snip!] ... you do and no matter what i say i will always be wrong so you think what you want and ill think what i want , no harm no foul"</blockquote>




It wouldn't have had to go round in circles had you not avoided answering the actual question I posed to you so many times. Instead of just saying yes I think it's a good idea that by law a Dr. should be forced to let a person die from organ failure even though they had that organ available because they weren't on a donation list or no I don't think that's a good idea, you just danced around the question.

Ella Minnow Pea Delight, Arkansas 3914 posts
3rd Feb '13
Quoting xTJ:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Dahling:</b>" Good point. Especially with blood donations--you ... [snip!] ... one? Also in the UK gay men cannot donate blood either so should all gay men be left to die if they need a blood transfusion?"


Yep! And there have been times I've been turned down from donating blood because my iron levels weren't high enough, even though that isn't always an issue for me. Besides, some people have an intense fear of needles and could pass out or something. I don't think "donations" should ever be forced. I like being an organ donor and donating blood when I can, but that's because I feel like I'm volunteering to help, not because someone forced me to.

Im watching you 3 kids; 1 angel baby; Adelaide, Australia 4985 posts
3rd Feb '13
Quoting meggymama:" No you still have eggs your body just stops ripening them, Im not 100% sure on the actual numbers but ... [snip!] ... fertilised it is shed with the womb lining , At the end of a womans reprodutive life she will still have a few thousand left "



oh , i read this and thought that we had no eggs left once we hit menopause



Is it Possible to get Pregnant after Menopause?



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After menopause many women worry that they can still get pregnant, which is a natural concern after a life of needing to worry about protecting oneself from an unwanted pregnancy. If your doctor has confirmed that you have gone through menopause it is impossible for you to become pregnant. The reason for this is that there are not any eggs left for your ovaries to release. If there are no eggs left in your body there is nothing left to become fertilized and grow into a baby.
While you cannot get pregnant if menopause is complete you can get pregnant when you are going through peri-menopause. The reason for this is that you are still ovulating on and off and if there is sperm present when you happen to ovulate it could turn into a viable fetus. During this time the likelihood of pregnancy is hit or miss, so if you do not want to become pregnant you should continue to use protection until your doctor can confirm that you have completed menopause. Remember that if you are trying to become pregnant during this time it might be hard as the eggs are quite old and a viable pregnancy may be hard to come by especially because you never know when you will ovulate or not.
If you have gone through menopause and your doctor has confirmed that you will not ovulate again there is no reason to worry about becoming pregnant. With a doctors confirmation you can begin to enjoy your sex life without the worry that you

Im watching you 3 kids; 1 angel baby; Adelaide, Australia 4985 posts
3rd Feb '13
Quoting xTJ:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Dahling:</b>" Good point. Especially with blood donations--you ... [snip!] ... one? Also in the UK gay men cannot donate blood either so should all gay men be left to die if they need a blood transfusion?"


why dont they let gay men donate , is it just men or does this apply for gay woman



KissMeFinnNelson<3 1 child; 2 angel babies; Glasgow, Scotland, UK, United Kingdom 5396 posts
3rd Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting meggymama:</b>" Is this still true? god, thats disgusting! I cannot donate becauase i have the lupus but i would think twice knowing this, it makes me sick "</blockquote>




The ban was suppossed to be lifted last year but it was right at the end of last year my cousin went to the blood donation place and the leaflets still had information stating on them if you were a lan and had engaged in any sexual activity with another man protected or unprotected in the last 12 months you could not give blood.

meggymama Due July 30; 97 kids; United Kingdom 510 posts
3rd Feb '13

Its not eggs as such, its ovum, your body produces hormones that ripen them into eggs, its complicated and im not sure how it works http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/menopause/DS00119/DSECTION=causes
is helpful

meggymama Due July 30; 97 kids; United Kingdom 510 posts
3rd Feb '13

there is so much wrong with that, Im glad they have now lifted it! women are just as likley to have HIV/STI's as men :(

KissMeFinnNelson<3 1 child; 2 angel babies; Glasgow, Scotland, UK, United Kingdom 5396 posts
3rd Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Dahling:</b>" Yep! And there have been times I've been turned down from donating blood because my iron levels weren't ... [snip!] ... donor and donating blood when I can, but that's because I feel like I'm volunteering to help, not because someone forced me to."</blockquote>




Yup I'm an organ donor and I'm happy to be one however to be forced is terrible. It is also incredibly easy to become an organ donor here as it asks you when you are applying for a driving license, a passport, it's everywhere and everywhere "Would you like to be registered as an organ donor?" and you just tick a yes box but I don't agree with being bribed with your life. I can't give blood though as I've had problems since I was a little kid that when I'm getting blood taken no one can get it. It can take them up to 10 attempts to hit a vein and even then the blood they get is a tiny amount. I pass out and everything it's weird.

KissMeFinnNelson<3 1 child; 2 angel babies; Glasgow, Scotland, UK, United Kingdom 5396 posts
3rd Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting meggymama:</b>" there is so much wrong with that, Im glad they have now lifted it! women are just as likley to have HIV/STI's as men :("</blockquote>




Well I don't know that they have really lifted it. The conditions on that recent leaflet were if you are a man who has engaged in oral or anal sex with another man PROTECTED or unprotected in the last 12 months you can't give blood. So pretty much what it is saying is that if you are a gay man you must've remained celibate for the last 12 months. I mean those conditions don't apply to anyone else, they don't require anyone else to have been celibate for at least 12 months, it's a disgrace.

meggymama Due July 30; 97 kids; United Kingdom 510 posts
3rd Feb '13

I think thats a whole nother debate, I dont even see how its legal to ask!

user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
3rd Feb '13

Have you ever read The Survival Lottery?



It's a thought experiment by John Harris and ties into this question quite nicely.



No, I do not think only donors should be able to receive organs. Should we take it a step further and declare that only the children of registered donors should be able to get an organ?

KissMeFinnNelson<3 1 child; 2 angel babies; Glasgow, Scotland, UK, United Kingdom 5396 posts
3rd Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting meggymama:</b>" I think thats a whole nother debate, I dont even see how its legal to ask!"</blockquote>




I've just had a look at the website and yes that condition still stands AND of you are a woman who in the last 12 months has engaged oral/anal/vaginal sex with a man who has had oral or anal sex with another man. So yes if you are a woman who is having sex with a bisexual man you are also banned. I mean WTF.

meggymama Due July 30; 97 kids; United Kingdom 510 posts
3rd Feb '13

:( I wonder why they deem it to be neccesary to discriminate? Is there more risk?

KissMeFinnNelson<3 1 child; 2 angel babies; Glasgow, Scotland, UK, United Kingdom 5396 posts
3rd Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting SAFFY