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lolajessup 3 kids; 1 angel baby; Beaverton, Michigan 44070 posts
4th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Kaylees mommy:</b>" If she is gassy as well try and avoid foods that cause gas.. I'm not sure the dr would have to tell ... [snip!] ... son the breast in the hospital.. I know with 4 ounces of breastmilk I add 1 tablespoon of organic oatmeal cereal to his bottle"</blockquote>



I'm hoping they can squeeze her in sometime :( I'm just afraid to sleep. Idk what I would have ate to make her gassy. I'm avoiding milk today and see if that helps cause I've been drinking a lot of milk cause it's what I'm craving haha. But idk of that's what's causing her pain.

BunnyGirl19 Due December 13; 3 kids; 10 angel babies; Oregon 16864 posts
4th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting lolajessup:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting BunnyGirl19:</b>" Meds won't help reflux unless there is an ... [snip!] ... She's not like projectile vomiting or anything. Just choking and spits some up. Luke a dribble. So she's keeping most of it."</blockquote>




Both of mine had explosive projectile spitup in the very beginning when they were getting half the feedings BM while my body still made some and the other half formula, so it was pretty bad all around. RJ choked and turned blue at 3 weeks old and they had us take him to the ER for a chest xray on the rare chance he aspirated. He didn't and they said it's highly unlikely because the body's natural defense mechanism is to block off the throat to keep it from getting into the lungs, which is why they temporarily stop breathing. I have used Enfamil AR with both and it's very helpful. Brighton has been on Zantac since 2 months though because a pH probe showed he had an acid issue as well. We just stopped it this week now that he's 6 months and so far so good. He still spits up, but it's nowhere near as bad. He started improving a lot after we started solids. I'm not sure how you'd thicken BM if you are nursing, but if she got pumped milk in a bottle they have packets of thickener you can add to BM as well as the old rice cereal method. If she's only doing a bit of spitup dribble she's probably not too bad in terms of reflux in general and just needs to improve her swallowing coordination still so she can keep down what tries to come up.

Kaylees mommy 50 kids; North Dakota 323 posts
4th Feb '13
Quoting lolajessup:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Kaylees mommy:</b>" If she is gassy as well try and avoid foods ... [snip!] ... that helps cause I've been drinking a lot of milk cause it's what I'm craving haha. But idk of that's what's causing her pain."


I hope they can get her in too :( so hard watching them when they don't feel well! They say all babies have reflux some worse then others and its because in the womb they get their nutrician from their umbilical cord and once they are born they have to eat and that muscle is weak from not using it in the womb.. Some babies grow out of it faster then others and some you don't even know they have refux because it doesn't bother them.. I know I panic all the time and always call or text my sister since she is a nurse and I am so thankful because she has always been so encouring for me to continue to pump for him so he gets breastmilk.. I still get up through out the night to pump as well to make sure I keep up with my supply and I actually have a huge freezer full of breastmilk frozen alerady! I hope she will feel better soon and will grow out of it!

Melissa 1 child; Michigan 1411 posts
4th Feb '13
Quoting lolajessup:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mel152009:</b>" My LO had reflux like that. She always choked ... [snip!] ... I hope she outgrows this. I sleep on the couch with her on my chest cause I'm so afraid of it happening while we're sleeping :("


No. I never thickened the breast milk, her pediatrician said it was too much of a hassle for me to pump because her symptoms were resolving on their own(it took 3 months) Yes, I was and still am exclusively breast feeding. I'm not sure about the aspirating milk. Tummy time helped a lot for my baby with the choking. She seemed to choke less when she was on her belly then when she was sitting up or laying on her back. She ended up having to sleep that way for a few months because she was in so much pain but now she is 100% better, I never thought the reflux would end!

Kaylees mommy 50 kids; North Dakota 323 posts
4th Feb '13
Quoting BunnyGirl19:" <blockquote><b>Quoting lolajessup:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting BunnyGirl19:</b>" ... [snip!] ... of reflux in general and just needs to improve her swallowing coordination still so she can keep down what tries to come up."


I'm sorry for the confusion yes I only pump for him.. I had a post partum hemmorage and my milk was really dalayed comming in he was jaundince and I knew he needed food to help flush it out and with me not producing any milk he wouldn't get any.. He got used to the bottle and I coudlnt' get him to latch back on I guess in a way its been a blessing because I can now add cereal (directed by his pedi) with his bottles to help thicken it.. Ok I thoughts that was the name of the formula I wasn't sure..

lolajessup 3 kids; 1 angel baby; Beaverton, Michigan 44070 posts
4th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mel152009:</b>" No. I never thickened the breast milk, her pediatrician said it was too much of a hassle for me to pump ... [snip!] ... that way for a few months because she was in so much pain but now she is 100% better, I never thought the reflux would end!"</blockquote>




So basically just living with anxiety for a few months and hope she outgrows it? Haha she seems to sleep better on my chest. So maybe that's better. She will still spit sometimes when she burps on my chest while I'm burping her. But it's like as much as a baby would drool while teething. Not like all of her food.

lolajessup 3 kids; 1 angel baby; Beaverton, Michigan 44070 posts
4th Feb '13

The nurse called back finally. She has an appt wed morn. She said just to follow the precautions for gerd. Keep her upright after eating. Don't move her around a lot after eating. Hve her eat at an angle and not laying flat. Keep a blue bulb syringe close by in case she chokes. I'm seriously petrified. I don't know how I'm
Gonna sleep. I keep her on my chest all the time now. Of course the nurses don't like that but seriously how can I put her down :(

Kaylees mommy 50 kids; North Dakota 323 posts
4th Feb '13
Quoting lolajessup:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mel152009:</b>" No. I never thickened the breast milk, her ... [snip!] ... burps on my chest while I'm burping her. But it's like as much as a baby would drool while teething. Not like all of her food."

Yes.. I know its hard.. My baby boy is 4 months old and we are hitting the peaking of it according to the pedi but his meds and cereal seem to be doing wonders for him right now! I'm hoping next week we have improvment on his weight! I told my husband I could handle him staying in the same percent I just hope he doesn't drop anymore then what he is.. I feel sooo bad for the little guy I know before we figured out the right meds he would be up screaming crying for hours nothing we would do would comfort him (this only happened if he had a rough day with spitting up) I'm guessing the acid was causing so much pain... Also when we would go to feed him he would gulp and scream cry and fight with us to eat thankfully one night it was time for his meds so I gave it to him and tried feeding an hour later and he did fine.. We were having a lot of problems with him sleeping as well (reflux babies don't sleep well due to the pain and discomfort) He would sleep longer stretches at night once they upped his meds but then he woudn't hardly nap and was extremly fussy.. The new dr we met with 2 weeks ago switched his meds around and added the new one and he started napping much better! He needed a night and day medicine to help keep acid levels under control.. Now with the cereal it helps hold the food down but also the acid because the cereal is thick and acts as a barrier I think is how the dr explained it because its heavy it will hold stuff down and wont allow it to come up. Its been really really hard because I felt so helpless with not being able to do anything! So far he is a competly different baby and seems to be finally getting some relief. The dr is hoping he will start to outgrow it around 6 months old and by a year old be done with it completly.. I really hope your daughter will out grow hers like most do really fast! My daughter had probems with projectile for the first 6 weeks if I remember correclty but she never got fussy or cranky and after that she was done with it we never had any problems with her... Also another thing that my little guy did a few weeks ago I was holding him and he stopped breathing and it came out of his nose :( the dr just said that was part of his reflux as well..

lolajessup 3 kids; 1 angel baby; Beaverton, Michigan 44070 posts
4th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Kaylees mommy:</b>" Yes.. I know its hard.. My baby boy is 4 months old and we are hitting the peaking of it according to ... [snip!] ... was holding him and he stopped breathing and it came out of his nose :( the dr just said that was part of his reflux as well.."</blockquote>



The pedi had mentioned it can come out her nose so keep the suction bulb around. She seems to do best on my chest. So the nurse can kiss my butt haha. I'm not gonna put her down and have her fuss all night. Immalready delayed on my csection recovery because I Had to get up an go feed her in the nicu for 3 days. And she had a hard time sleeping when she got to my room so I had to get up and down more than that. Then I cleaned the car out and fell and hurt myself worse. It's so hard to get up and down. I just can't do it all night long. That's why we're on the couch.



I'm really hoping they won't do anything since she's young and it's not all of her milk cause the nurse said theyd do thickening but they try to wait until 4 mos. but then she wouldn't be able to bf and I really hate pumping. I love Bfing for the Bfing aspect as well as the bm. My dd1 bf until 2.5 and I want to let her self wean as well. She does so well on the breast as well. I guess I'll just stick to keeping her upright more.

First Time Mama :) Due July 12; 1 child; Pennsylvania 343 posts
4th Feb '13

Hi!!!! If you do suspect food allergies, I would cut the top allergens out of your diet for 2-3wks. My DD has food allergies/intolerance and I have been BFing for 7mths. We didnt know it until around wk 8 when she started to poop a little bit of blood. Her stools were green and mucousy. There was another BG mom who helped me a lot! I am not sure if she still gets on her or not, but she knows more than I. But I learned a lot. I saw in one of your posts that you cut dairy out. Read this and then click on the hidden dairy cheat sheet..... http://kellymom.com/health/baby-health/food-sensitivity/ It took my DD 17 days to stop passing blood. It wasnt every day but it did take a while. I have all most everything cut out of my diet, because her GI doc and I suspect more than just dairy. DD's pedi wanted me to stop bfing and gave me cans of nutramigen, but I was determined to cont Bfing. And DD is doing pretty good :) If you do suspect food allergies/intolerance, please be careful if you give rice or oatmeal, look at the ingredients. I use beech nut Rice. It is soy free. Good luck mama

lolajessup 3 kids; 1 angel baby; Beaverton, Michigan 44070 posts
4th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting First Time Mama :):</b>" Hi!!!! If you do suspect food allergies, I would cut the top allergens out of your diet for 2-3wks. My ... [snip!] ... please be careful if you give rice or oatmeal, look at the ingredients. I use beech nut Rice. It is soy free. Good luck mama"</blockquote>




Thanks. Yeah I don't want it to come to doing cereal because it would
Mean I'd have to pump and stop Bfing. :(



I'll check that link out when I'm on a computer unless someone can post it clicky for me.



She hasn't had any weirdness to her poop so that's why I'm starting with just the milk. But do u think I should just do a whole dairy cut out?

First Time Mama :) Due July 12; 1 child; Pennsylvania 343 posts
4th Feb '13
Quoting lolajessup:" <blockquote><b>Quoting First Time Mama :):</b>" Hi!!!! If you do suspect food allergies, ... [snip!] ... any weirdness to her poop so that's why I'm starting with just the milk. But do u think I should just do a whole dairy cut out?"


hi!! i am not sure how to do the clicky thing?? yes dairy is def a start!

lolajessup 3 kids; 1 angel baby; Beaverton, Michigan 44070 posts
4th Feb '13

Thanks mama.