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P3RvYmCp3rv 2 kids; Carlyle, Illinois 11903 posts
5th Feb '13
Quoting Nathaniel'sMom:" <blockquote><b>Quoting P3RvYmCp3rv:</b>" that is just some of the women's stories, ... [snip!] ... what she's talking about. She's only researched for 1 day and is already trying talk crap about people who make this choice."

Yeap. I wanted a home birth with Audrianna so badddd, but it being after a c-section 18 months prior and me being away from any reputable hospitals that do VBACs just made me not comfortable with it. My hospital with her though left me alone most of the time and let me do my thing as I had requested.

Mandy Schlatterer Due March 27; 2 kids; New Port Richey, Florida 1334 posts
5th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting P3RvYmCp3rv:</b>" that is just some of the women's stories, not all of them. And it isn't with no help. Alot of the time ... [snip!] ... are good. I would always look up anybody who claims they have accreditation. Even my doctors who are with hospitals I look up. "</blockquote>




Free birthing is with no help, and a lot of people are now doing that, no trained help at all, just "trusting their bodies"



There's enough stories there to show a problem.
The number of issues in hb are less than hospital because the number of UBS is FAR less. But if you could see an accurately recorded percentage, things would look different.



Jar a has 500 marbles. 300 are red, 200 are blue.
Jar b has 10,000 marbles. 3,000 are red. 7,000 are blue.
Just because jar b has more blue marbles than red, does not change that jar a has a higher percentage of red ones. There's just less marbles in the first jar

Mandy Schlatterer Due March 27; 2 kids; New Port Richey, Florida 1334 posts
5th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mandy Schlatterer:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting P3RvYmCp3rv:</b>" that is just some of the women's stories, ... [snip!] ... marbles than red, does not change that jar a has a higher percentage of red ones. There's just less marbles in the first jar"</blockquote>



Mistakes= autocorrect on my phonr

Mandy Schlatterer Due March 27; 2 kids; New Port Richey, Florida 1334 posts
5th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mandy Schlatterer:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting P3RvYmCp3rv:</b>" that is just some of the women's stories, ... [snip!] ... marbles than red, does not change that jar a has a higher percentage of red ones. There's just less marbles in the first jar"</blockquote>



Mistakes= autocorrect on my phonr

♥Mizy & Baking #2 ♥ Due January 2; 1 child; 4 angel babies; Far far away land, IA, United States 30474 posts
status 5th Feb '13

My SO's mom had 8 homebirths they aren't all bad as long as you have the right person delivering.SO is one of nine and her first actual homebirth. I also hated my hospital experience with my daughter she was perfectly healthy but the doctor i had was a b***h who i apperently yelled at. I honestly wont tell a women how to give birth to their child and i feel that everyone should respect the mothers wishes. Thats in a perfect world though. I can say i have thought about having a midwife attend me at my next birth instead of a doctor who could care less about anything other then money. Thats the kind of doctor i had.

......................... Vancouver, British Columbia 5643 posts
5th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mandy Schlatterer:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting P3RvYmCp3rv:</b>" that is just some of the women's stories, ... [snip!] ... marbles than red, does not change that jar a has a higher percentage of red ones. There's just less marbles in the first jar"</blockquote>



No the "problem" is people like you who stick their nose in other people's business. Does it effect your life in any way if these women make the choice to birth at home unassisted? Nope didn't think so. So keep your opinions to yourself.

P3RvYmCp3rv 2 kids; Carlyle, Illinois 11903 posts
5th Feb '13
Quoting Mandy Schlatterer:" <blockquote><b>Quoting P3RvYmCp3rv:</b>" that is just some of the women's stories, ... [snip!] ... marbles than red, does not change that jar a has a higher percentage of red ones. There's just less marbles in the first jar"

If midwives aren't able to do homebirths in IL by the time I have a kid I'll probably still do a homebirth. Oh and btw your link has midwives in it alot of the time. GASP You fail at logic here. You are an idiot.

Mandy Schlatterer Due March 27; 2 kids; New Port Richey, Florida 1334 posts
5th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mandy Schlatterer:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting P3RvYmCp3rv:</b>" that is just some of the women's stories, ... [snip!] ... marbles than red, does not change that jar a has a higher percentage of red ones. There's just less marbles in the first jar"</blockquote>




I meant to say



There's more red ones in jar b but a higher percentage in jar a



I'm all sorts of tired

P3RvYmCp3rv 2 kids; Carlyle, Illinois 11903 posts
5th Feb '13
Quoting Mandy Schlatterer:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mandy Schlatterer:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting P3RvYmCp3rv:</b>" ... [snip!] ... I meant to say There's more red ones in jar b but a higher percentage in jar a I'm all sorts of tired"

You are all sorts of ignorant too.

Mandy Schlatterer Due March 27; 2 kids; New Port Richey, Florida 1334 posts
5th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting P3RvYmCp3rv:</b>" If midwives aren't able to do homebirths in IL by the time I have a kid I'll probably still do a homebirth. ... [snip!] ... still do a homebirth. Oh and btw your link has midwives in it alot of the time. GASP You fail at logic here. You are an idiot. "</blockquote>




And?

......................... Vancouver, British Columbia 5643 posts
5th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting P3RvYmCp3rv:</b>" You are all sorts of ignorant too. "</blockquote>



I second that :!:

P3RvYmCp3rv 2 kids; Carlyle, Illinois 11903 posts
5th Feb '13
Quoting Mandy Schlatterer:" <blockquote><b>Quoting P3RvYmCp3rv:</b>" If midwives aren't able to do homebirths in ... [snip!] ... btw your link has midwives in it alot of the time. GASP You fail at logic here. You are an idiot. "</blockquote> And?"


How does something siting midwives=unassisted homebirth? Also why does it matter to you when it isn't your kid? There are alot of people that have had amazing home births

Mandy Schlatterer Due March 27; 2 kids; New Port Richey, Florida 1334 posts
5th Feb '13

Ok. Well it's dangerous. Many of the stories ended with some version if @if my kid were born in a hospital, they'd still be alive" that's enough logic to sell me. I guess some others are too arrogant and confident in their powerful womanly abilities to see danger, putting the power of the instinctually guided female and proving something above safety.



If the advocates for that feel the need to speak out for home birth, I feel the need to speak out against it, and there may be someone reading this who isn't joining in the conversation who rethinks the foolish decision after viewing that website. If so, I've accomplished something. That's worth having some think I'm an idiot.



Good night and good luck with your gambling.

P3RvYmCp3rv 2 kids; Carlyle, Illinois 11903 posts
5th Feb '13
Quoting Mandy Schlatterer:" Ok. Well it's dangerous. Many of the stories ended with some version if @if my kid were born in a hospital, ... [snip!] ... If so, I've accomplished something. That's worth having some think I'm an idiot. Good night and good luck with your gambling."


And hospitals come at increased risk of MERSA, RSV, FLU, want me to keep going? Hospitals are for sick people. Its not your place to try to scare a mother out of something she has researched with your ignorant I found one thing that says "it is dangerous" but yet I don't think hospital births are dangerous.

Mandy Schlatterer Due March 27; 2 kids; New Port Richey, Florida 1334 posts
5th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting P3RvYmCp3rv:</b>" How does something siting midwives=unassisted homebirth? Also why does it matter to you when it isn't your kid? There are alot of people that have had amazing home births"</blockquote>




And many who have lost children during it. Minding your own business is not always good. People need to be aware of the dangers. All you can find is good stuff when you look it up. The other side ought to be exposed too. Only showing one side of something makes it questionable. Why hide the darker truth?