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user banned California 36390 posts
6th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Minion:</b>" I'll jut have to agree to disagree. I fully believe it is all 3 parties' faults. The kid for not behaving. The parents for not watching him. And the clerk for not keeping her hands to herself."</blockquote>




Keep on blaming the victim then. But that just means you think the clerk was justified

Sarah ♥ K&K 2 kids; South Land, CA, United States 120378 posts
6th Feb '13
Quoting Minion:" I'll jut have to agree to disagree. I fully believe it is all 3 parties' faults. The kid for not behaving. The parents for not watching him. And the clerk for not keeping her hands to herself."


Wow, would you blame a man or woman if their spouse beat them "for not behaving"

justanothamotha Due January 20; 130 kids; Climax, Michigan 5120 posts
6th Feb '13
Quoting Quark:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Minion:</b>" I would never send my children to the store by ... [snip!] ... 8. That's way too young."</blockquote> According to you. But according to much of the rest of the world, real life? No."

I don't know anyone who sends an 8 yr old to the store alone. I was never allowed, none of my family/friends allow this. It isn't like that where I am from & this is a safe small town. Maybe at 10, but not 8. My local corner store is a block away & is walking distance to several schools & says "NO ONE UNDER 10 YRS OF AGE PERMITTED WITHOUT AN ADULT" right on the doors. I had no idea it was commonplace anywhere to let such young kids go to stores alone & I can't imagine why they would need to.



Maybe it's that reason that makes me say that YES the clerk is crazy & needs a psych eval, but it wouldn't happen to my kid because my kid wouldn't be at the store alone & if they were old enough to go & have some clerk start talking crazy, they'd be well enough aware they need to walk away if an adult is confrontational, for their own safety. It isn't about him deserving it - it is about him being too young to understand he was standing in front of danger & instead of walking away, which would have been the safest instinct, he poked the bear. It is NO different than teaching my kids NEVER to approach a car with an adult calling them over, it is for their own safety. If they approached the car & get abducted it isn't their fault, but I would rather they know to run the opposite direction BEFORE they go off walking alone. I can't fix the whackos in this world, I can try to teach my kids basic ways to react toward adults in various conditions.



My mom was far from hovering, but she also didn't let us wander public places alone. The woods? Absolutely. We also played all over family farms & climbed the catwalks & played in hay lofts & rode horses for miles & miles. The store? Never.

*L0ViN.J.D.&M* 3 kids; Virginia 5233 posts
6th Feb '13

Just Saying.. at 8, 9, 10 i was allowed to go to the store alone.



Hell i even walked two blocks to the store.

delightfully mad Slut, Sweden 146 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting justanothamotha:" I don't know anyone who sends an 8 yr old to the store alone. I was never allowed, none of my family/friends ... [snip!] ... family farms & climbed the catwalks & played in hay lofts & rode horses for miles & miles. The store? Never."

Different places, different norms. I was routinely sent to the store or just went (after telling my mom) for my own amusement, starting around 7 or 8. My oldest two kids go all the time and there's quite a lot of kids around us that do, even though it's far less common than when I was a kid what with our paranoid parent patrols.

justanothamotha Due January 20; 130 kids; Climax, Michigan 5120 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting Quark:" Different places, different norms. I was routinely sent to the store or just went (after telling my mom) ... [snip!] ... a lot of kids around us that do, even though it's far less common than when I was a kid what with our paranoid parent patrols."

Well this kid was too young to be there alone, obviously. He had someone call him a demon & rather than take that as a potential danger sign he threw stuff on the floor & taunted her purposely. I am NOT saying she was in the right, FAR from it. I am saying someone older & wiser may have seen that she seemed a bit nuts, wouldn't decide to f**k with her to "see what happens". Like I said, I see this like a kid getting into a strangers car. It is NOT the kids fault when a pedo pulls up & asks a kid to help him find his lost puppy. A child that is naive enough to get into the car though is too immature to be out alone because they aren't recognizing dangerous situations & knowing how to avoid them. That age likely varies according to child, but to me, it would fit most 8 yr olds since at that age most can't likely tell the difference between an annoyed adult & one who skipped her meds this week.

Ryloonjimama Australia 18851 posts
7th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Danielle: Jack&Basil'sMom:</b>" Maybe I didn't read thoroughly but what did the kid do to be called a demon? I know if someone called me a demon, I'd be like "f**k you". :lol:"</blockquote>



:!:



This.



From what I saw, she called him a demon, THEN he threw a cookie... How the hell does that make him the little shit? For all anyone knows, the kid was minding his own damn business.



&Like someone else said, who cares where the parents were, he's 8 years old, not a toddler who needs constant supervision.

Ryloonjimama Australia 18851 posts
7th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Sarah Bare-ah♡:</b>" I see some posts saying he deserved a spanking. Yeah, by his parents not to be beaten with a belt across his back..the f**k"</blockquote>




I just don't understand why people even thought he "deserved" a spanking, honestly. Two wrongs don't make a right, but I don't believe that an adult has the right to demand respect from a child whom they blatantly disrespect.

Ryloonjimama Australia 18851 posts
7th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Minion:</b>" I would never send my children to the store by themselves at 8. That's way too young."</blockquote>




It could have been a shopping centre, the mum might have been in a different store. Who knows? I probably wouldn't allow my 8 year old to make their own way to a shopping centre, but I might let them go have a look in a different store while we are there... Really just depends on the child, more than the number, IMO.

justanothamotha Due January 20; 130 kids; Climax, Michigan 5120 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting Ryloonjimama:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Danielle: Jack&Basil'sMom:</b>" Maybe I didn't read thoroughly ... [snip!] ... &Like someone else said, who cares where the parents were, he's 8 years old, not a toddler who needs constant supervision."

He absolutely may have been minding his on business & if he were & an adult came up & started calling him a demon, a child who IS old enough to handle being alone WOULD see a red flag in an adult irrationally saying mean things & would walk/run away. I may choose to stand my ground, I would probably choose not to do so if it were a man that were twice my size though...because I am old enough to know that even if HE is in the wrong, *I'm* probably the one whose going to get hurt.



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