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P3RvYmCp3rv 2 kids; Carlyle, Illinois 11904 posts
6th Feb '13
Quoting Destiel:" Make every business open on Christmas ... I have to work and that means I wouldn't have to find someone to take care of DS because daycare is close."


I'm all for that...also they would have to take away holiday pay for Christmas because they don't give holiday pay for other religious holidays. :) Gov't is discrimatory all together.

The Dandelion Rapist 18 kids; New Mexico 6885 posts
6th Feb '13
Quoting P3RvYmCp3rv:" I'm all for that...also they would have to take away holiday pay for Christmas because they don't give holiday pay for other religious holidays. :) Gov't is discrimatory all together. "



I am for making Government agencies work on Christmas... But I like my husband's Holiday pay.

What if... 2 kids; Ontario 4587 posts
6th Feb '13
Quoting 36-24-36OnlyIfshes5-3:" The Christian lady who said she'll have to answer to God about it LMAO! yeah God is totally gonna strike ... [snip!] ... down for making a gay couple a cake SMDH. I think it's definitely messed up but I'm not quite sure if it is legal or not. "


dang. I'm pretty screwed I've made more than a few cakes for gay couples.

P3RvYmCp3rv 2 kids; Carlyle, Illinois 11904 posts
6th Feb '13
Quoting The Dandelion Rapist:" I am for making Government agencies work on Christmas... But I like my husband's Holiday pay. "

Ehhhhh holiday pay ehh they technically should enforce holiday pay for other religious major holidays too but they don't.

The Dandelion Rapist 18 kids; New Mexico 6885 posts
6th Feb '13
Quoting P3RvYmCp3rv:" Ehhhhh holiday pay ehh they technically should enforce holiday pay for other religious major holidays too but they don't. "


I can't remember what Holiday's count towards Holiday pay for Aaron to be honest. I know Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years Day do. I wish my birthday and Superbowl Sunday counted. :lol:

Ryleigh's Mama ♥ 17 kids; West Virginia 10703 posts
6th Feb '13

I just don't understand what the big deal is. I mean.. it's a fucking cake. They're going to get married regardless of whether or not he makes the cake. I could understand if it was a preacher refusing to marry them... but a cake?

Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8559 posts
6th Feb '13

I think it's just dumb.
You run a business making and selling cakes for profit. A customer walks in and wants to buy a cake - you sell them a cake, make a few bucks, and move on to the next customer.
If I ran a bakery, I'd sell cakes to Hitler if he had cash in hand.

justanothamotha Due January 20; 130 kids; Climax, Michigan 5120 posts
6th Feb '13

You can't decide not to service a GROUP of people. It is fine if someone walked in & you said, "I don't like YOU and I am not going to sell YOU a cake because I don't want to do business with YOU." Once you cross over into I don't like homosexuals, Jews, Christians, Muslims, Black People, short people, whatever, you are no longer in the realm of the "right to refuse service" and you've stepping into practice of illegal discrimination & rightly so. Don't want to do business with certain groups? Great, then don't open a business that services the public.

IOnlyMakeBoys (B.B.M) 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Texas 4754 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting Taryn - Anya's mommy:" not for discrimination reasons"

If that is their defense he could claim the same for her not respecting his religious beliefs they both could have fun with this if it went to court.

justanothamotha Due January 20; 130 kids; Climax, Michigan 5120 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting Mylittleone's (B.B.M):" If that is their defense he could claim the same for her not respecting his religious beliefs they both could have fun with this if it went to court."

You arne't allowed to infringe your religious beliefs on those who enter your place of business. No one is forcing him to make a cake on Sunday....and heaven help me I hope he is closed on Sunday lest he be shot down by lightning. They are asking him to make a cake, as the cake maker he is. He would have a tough time proving that making a cake, as a cake maker, is somehow infringing on his beliefs because of what celebration it is being served at. He makes wedding cakes. They aren't asking him to make a cake to celebrate an infant sacrifice here.

Mama Lizzy :] 1 child; Texas 5575 posts
7th Feb '13

Its his right s a private business owner....but it is discrimination

IOnlyMakeBoys (B.B.M) 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Texas 4754 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting justanothamotha:" You arne't allowed to infringe your religious beliefs on those who enter your place of business. No one ... [snip!] ... it is being served at. He makes wedding cakes. They aren't asking him to make a cake to celebrate an infant sacrifice here."



It's all in how they want to look at it and if you have a good lawyer they can make a case out of anything and this would be his best defense because they would have to prove it on both sides to make either accusation of discrimination valid and also people are allowed certain allowances for their religious beliefs in the work place owning a business is no different he believes what he believes he could also argue she could have gone to another bakery for her cake for I am sure he is not the only one in the area. I am not saying what he did was right but in the court system and with lawyers you can argue anything.



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justanothamotha Due January 20; 130 kids; Climax, Michigan 5120 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting Mylittleone's (B.B.M):" It's all in how they want to look at it and if you have a good lawyer they can make a case out of ... [snip!] ... it is perfectly legal to do so although I may dislike it or feel discriminated against I can't technically do a thing about it."

I think that ought to be illegal too. Unless the establishment is somehow specific to adults (like a bar or strippers) then it makes no sense to allow ageism. What if I had an adult child who was mentally 5 yr sold - that person would be allowed in, even if they are a little loud or rambunctious based solely on age & to deny them would in fact THEN be discriminatory. Same thing like olde rpeople can talk excessively lou ddue ot hearing issues & sometimes dementia can make people act strangely - but if they said "no one over 70" they would be in a shit storm then. I think ageism is ageism & discrimination is pretty easy to spot when it happens.

IOnlyMakeBoys (B.B.M) 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Texas 4754 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting justanothamotha:" I think that ought to be illegal too. Unless the establishment is somehow specific to adults (like a ... [snip!] ... 70" they would be in a shit storm then. I think ageism is ageism & discrimination is pretty easy to spot when it happens."


I agree and although I hate that certain restaurants do it I choose to go to a different restaurant where my child will not be discriminated against solely on his age and not his actual behavior. It sucks but when it comes down to it if I want to go out to eat why throw a fit over one place that is being inappropriate when I can go to another place and have my child respected and still have a good meal?

justanothamotha Due January 20; 130 kids; Climax, Michigan 5120 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting Mylittleone's (B.B.M):" I agree and although I hate that certain restaurants do it I choose to go to a different restaurant ... [snip!] ... one place that is being inappropriate when I can go to another place and have my child respected and still have a good meal?"

I don't see standing up to discriminatory business practices as "throwing a fit" - I think it is the only way you ensure that people have free & equal access to goods & services they are entitled to under the law. I won't stand up so a 16 yr old can buy smokes or beer - they can wait, like EVERYONE ELSE, until they are old enough to purchase, but to randomly discriminate against a segment of population isn't okay with me, ever, whether it applies to me or not. I am not a lesbian. It still bothers me.