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Ellie. 34 kids; Arizona 25368 posts
7th Feb '13

I dont want to argue about it... MY opinion is that a 2 parent household with a parent or trusted family member with your same values watching your kids if you have to work, is BEST for my kid. I think it would benefit others. I think if we as a society were a little more modest and instilled better values, society may be a little better.

Im not knocking single parents or saying that they cant do it. I'm saying in general, it helps to have more than one parent.

homes cool 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Indiana 60889 posts
7th Feb '13
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EnnaBennaBanana 2 kids; Maryland 6168 posts
7th Feb '13

I agree with you on pretty much everything.

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
7th Feb '13
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homes cool 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Indiana 60889 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting Destiel:" This always confuses me ... it seems strange to me that the people who think that the world would be ... [snip!] ... ones talking about starting a college fund for their daughter/s or pushing them to excel at school. Seems kinda contradictory."

I don't think women should be able to have to stay at home, but I do find value in it -- great value. Doesn't mean I think we should be idiots. :?

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting grace life:" I don't think women should be able to have to stay at home, but I do find value in it -- great value. Doesn't mean I think we should be idiots. :?"


but what's the point in pushing your daughter in having a career that you don't believe she should have? Seems like a lot of money and effort when that could go into putting them through finishing school or into learning etiquette?

homes cool 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Indiana 60889 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting Destiel:" but what's the point in pushing your daughter in having a career that you don't believe she should ... [snip!] ... Seems like a lot of money and effort when that could go into putting them through finishing school or into learning etiquette? "


I don't think my daughter should only be a stay at home wife/mother, I won't raise her to think that is her only option. Heck, she may never get married or have kids! It is my responsibility to ensure she's well educated and prepared to enter the world so that she can make that choice. If she makes the choice to follow in my footsteps, so be it, but I don't think women have to give up their education to focus on being a mother.

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting grace life:" I don't think my daughter should only be a stay at home wife/mother, I won't raise her to think that ... [snip!] ... to follow in my footsteps, so be it, but I don't think women have to give up their education to focus on being a mother. "


Yes but in years past that was what women did .... it was what made these romanticized time periods like the 50's. Dad went to work and the women stayed home ... they lived at home with their parents learning how to be the perfect wife until the point where they got married.

The Time Police TTC since Apr 2014; 1 angel baby; Cold Lake, AB, Canada 33355 posts
status 7th Feb '13
Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" If you dont see something wrong with today's society.... you should pay more attention. Rapes, murders, ... [snip!] ... so often. Society is fucked up. Period. Worse than ever b efore. I don't "think" our values are slipping away. I KNOW they are."


Many laws we have now that make certain acts of crime illegal were NEVER in place back then, or have since been expanded, giving the appearance of it being "safer..." Rape was never considered a crime and was not reported, just as an example. Like I said -- You feel a "nuclear" family is a good one, you like the values... do it. But you are very much romanticising the past, and in all actuality it is much safer today than it was then. The laws have just changed and evolved, so to speak.

homes cool 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Indiana 60889 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting Destiel:" Yes but in years past that was what women did .... it was what made these romanticized time periods ... [snip!] ... home ... they lived at home with their parents learning how to be the perfect wife until the point where they got married. "


Okay.



I didn't say we should go back to everything they did in the 50's. I said I agree that our values are slipping. That runs much deeper than a woman being encouraged to further her education regardless of what career path she pursues.

user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting grace life:" It won't let me bold this part, so I'll just quote it.. "Every generation has their group of people ... [snip!] ... I think that on the things I believe to be black/white, we're absolutely slipping & have been for a very long time. "


My moral compass is completely skewed. :lol:



I think morality, in most things, is gray. There are very few situations where I cannot, somehow, justify the action of the person. To me, morality is more of a "I wouldn't go out and murder someone unless..." kind of deal. I can completely be moral and under a different situation, be completely immoral.



I'm flexible like that. 8)

homes cool 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Indiana 60889 posts
7th Feb '13
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user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting grace life:" Gotcha! I think we're pretty opposite on this one :wink:"


hehe
Yeah but we respect each other enough that it doesn't really matter unless I go out and kill someone and then tr to justify it in a completely immoral way.

homes cool 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Indiana 60889 posts
7th Feb '13
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The Blissful Six 4 kids; 1 angel baby; Massachusetts 10260 posts
7th Feb '13
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