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The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting SAFFY
homes cool TTC since May 2014; 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Indiana 60979 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting Destiel:" This always confuses me ... it seems strange to me that the people who think that the world would be ... [snip!] ... ones talking about starting a college fund for their daughter/s or pushing them to excel at school. Seems kinda contradictory."

I don't think women should be able to have to stay at home, but I do find value in it -- great value. Doesn't mean I think we should be idiots. :?

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting grace life:" I don't think women should be able to have to stay at home, but I do find value in it -- great value. Doesn't mean I think we should be idiots. :?"


but what's the point in pushing your daughter in having a career that you don't believe she should have? Seems like a lot of money and effort when that could go into putting them through finishing school or into learning etiquette?

homes cool TTC since May 2014; 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Indiana 60979 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting Destiel:" but what's the point in pushing your daughter in having a career that you don't believe she should ... [snip!] ... Seems like a lot of money and effort when that could go into putting them through finishing school or into learning etiquette? "


I don't think my daughter should only be a stay at home wife/mother, I won't raise her to think that is her only option. Heck, she may never get married or have kids! It is my responsibility to ensure she's well educated and prepared to enter the world so that she can make that choice. If she makes the choice to follow in my footsteps, so be it, but I don't think women have to give up their education to focus on being a mother.

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting grace life:" I don't think my daughter should only be a stay at home wife/mother, I won't raise her to think that ... [snip!] ... to follow in my footsteps, so be it, but I don't think women have to give up their education to focus on being a mother. "


Yes but in years past that was what women did .... it was what made these romanticized time periods like the 50's. Dad went to work and the women stayed home ... they lived at home with their parents learning how to be the perfect wife until the point where they got married.

homes cool TTC since May 2014; 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Indiana 60979 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting Destiel:" Yes but in years past that was what women did .... it was what made these romanticized time periods ... [snip!] ... home ... they lived at home with their parents learning how to be the perfect wife until the point where they got married. "


Okay.



I didn't say we should go back to everything they did in the 50's. I said I agree that our values are slipping. That runs much deeper than a woman being encouraged to further her education regardless of what career path she pursues.

user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting grace life:" It won't let me bold this part, so I'll just quote it.. "Every generation has their group of people ... [snip!] ... I think that on the things I believe to be black/white, we're absolutely slipping & have been for a very long time. "


My moral compass is completely skewed. :lol:



I think morality, in most things, is gray. There are very few situations where I cannot, somehow, justify the action of the person. To me, morality is more of a "I wouldn't go out and murder someone unless..." kind of deal. I can completely be moral and under a different situation, be completely immoral.



I'm flexible like that. 8)

homes cool TTC since May 2014; 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Indiana 60979 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting SAFFY
user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting grace life:" Gotcha! I think we're pretty opposite on this one :wink:"


hehe
Yeah but we respect each other enough that it doesn't really matter unless I go out and kill someone and then tr to justify it in a completely immoral way.

homes cool TTC since May 2014; 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Indiana 60979 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting SAFFY
The Blissful Six 4 kids; 1 angel baby; Massachusetts 10260 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting SAFFY
user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting grace life:" :lol: Yea, no killing people please! lol."


Aww. You're no fun. *kicks dirt*

homes cool TTC since May 2014; 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Indiana 60979 posts
7th Feb '13
Quoting SAFFY
Ellie. 34 kids; Arizona 25371 posts
7th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Destiel:</b>" but what's the point in pushing your daughter in having a career that you don't believe she should ... [snip!] ... Seems like a lot of money and effort when that could go into putting them through finishing school or into learning etiquette? "</blockquote>




Who is saying that women have to stay home? This isn't about women's rights....

Ellie. 34 kids; Arizona 25371 posts
7th Feb '13

In simpler terms....its harder to raise kids with awesome values if you're away from home all the time. That is what I think is wrong with a majority of kids and teens today. No supervision and loose values.



I'm not saying its impossible.... just harder. When one parent is home with children, its easier to teach your kids, play with them, and be more involved. The more involvement, the less likely a child is to act out or grow up with poor values.



This has nothing to do with keeping women in the kitchen. Many women make the choice to stay home. I would love to as I think its beneficial to my kids.



If more parents were able to stay home and be accountable for how their children are being raised, things might improvement. I am NOT sating working parents won't be able to do that because I work and my kids will damn sure have morals and values. Its just much harder.