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justanothamotha Due January 20; 130 kids; Climax, Michigan 5120 posts
Mar 8th '13
Quoting .Colleen.:" Sounds like some pretty outdated information you have. WIC has actually been instrumental in raising breastfeeding rates in their communities."

I know this is old, but I wanted to answer (have been away since this day) - it isn't "old outdated info". WIC has plenty of ways of "raising breastfeeding rates"...such locally here starting to troll LLL meetings to offer pamphlets to help moms get signed up for benefits "they are entitled to". It was very clear in the short bit that I tried to help our local WIC office with their "breastfeeding efforts". They were making great numbers while actively recruiting already breastfeeding mothers to join their program. The director repeatedly tried to get me to sign up even after I already said I was not in need of WIC & she kept saying " I bet you qualify" and I was like" I don't, and I don't care"...she even went so far as trying to get me to tell her our yearly income because she was "sure" I could sign up & it would help raise those numbers". I quit helping at all. It was pathetic. Look at enrollment rates - they actually are pretty darned close to WICS "successes" in raising BFing rates. You can argue with the man that actually did the research all you want, but I know NO ONE that nursed because WIC helped them & never have.



I also look at things like this: http://www.fns.usda.gov/wic/fundingandprogramdata/FY2010-BFdata-localagencyreport.pdf
That show much lower rates for breastfeeding among WIC participants than in the average public & I don't think to myself what a booming success they are at promoting BFing.



I haven't scoured the country posing as a potential BFing mom seeing how various WIC offices react & whether they promote it or whatever - I have never read a thing that convinces me they truly are doing that much better than they used to either though & locally I have been far from convinced although their data suggests they are doing a much better job. All I've seen is they are doing a much better job of enrolling nursing moms & extolling the benefits you can receive beyond formula - which is why many BFing moms don't sign up - because around here if you think WIC, you do think formula. I even grew up hearing things like " I don't get WIC, I breastfeed". :roll:



Maybe you can show me something where their is a community that has had stable enrollment rates and shown a marked increase in their nursing rates via WIC & then I'd think there was an area where WIC was doing better. I haven't found anything that shows that.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23152 posts
Mar 8th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting justanothamotha:</b>" I know this is old, but I wanted to answer (have been away since this day) - it isn't "old outdated info". ... [snip!] ... rates via WIC & then I'd think there was an area where WIC was doing better. I haven't found anything that shows that."</blockquote>




I'm not going to address whether or not WIC has truly impacted BF rates on a national level as there will always be situations like you me turned above when people are invented to get bogus results.
BUT, I will say that in general, government programs usually fail at whatever they set out to do (except for military).
I'm sure there are plenty of local examples of WIC success and WIC failure.
Some will depend on the local culture.
Years ago when I did.an internship rotation at WIC, the local director was sincere in her efforts to truly increase BFing. She was discouraged as the cultural norm was "eww gross" about BFing.

taking a look at life Palm beach gardens, FL, United States 49166 posts
Mar 13th '13
Quoting .Colleen.:" WIC means "women, infants and children" why would the only be about formula? Sounds like you don't ... [snip!] ... on their breastfeeding numbers and increasing them. WIC was not implemented to fund the big bad formula companies :roll:"



yah me and them got into a big fight about watching a BF video, i eneded up winning and i didnt have to watch it with my son because i was on medication that was a big no no for BF but i BF my daughter to 8 months witch i am very proud of and still have to watch it.

taking a look at life Palm beach gardens, FL, United States 49166 posts
Mar 13th '13
Quoting .Colleen.:" yea, it's not their fault though, they are just trying to do their jobs and their job's have a huge focus on increasing breastfeeding rates."



yah i watched it with my daughter but my son there was no way in hell i was watching it.... They got over it