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TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23040 posts
18th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Red Bottom:</b>" I notice that a lot of pro-life people are actually pro choice. Believe in abortion after invest or rape? You're pro choice. Believe in abortion if the mothers life is in danger? You're pro choice."</blockquote>




:). I have a tough time labeling myself. I don't feel part of either camp.

Red Bottom 2 kids; Middelfart, Denmark 15275 posts
18th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting meggymama:</b>" I think if you are shoving it in peoples faces then yesI do think so, I would never purposely try to ... [snip!] ... And yes everyone is entitled to an opinion but i dont beleieve everyone has the right to enforce that opinion on others."</blockquote>




They see it as murder. You'd do the same thing to deter murderer of adults, right?



You want abortion to be legal, but sharing opinions and real life pictures to be illegal? Sounds off.

meggymama Due July 30; 97 kids; United Kingdom 510 posts
18th Feb '13
Quoting Red Bottom:" <blockquote><b>Quoting meggymama:</b>" I think if you are shoving it in peoples faces ... [snip!] ... of adults, right? You want abortion to be legal, but sharing opinions and real life pictures to be illegal? Sounds off."

I genuinely think it is harrasement, which last time i checked was illegal.
Please dont confuse my feelings toward the death of a child with how i would feel about the murder of an adult. I have very personal issues re this subject BUT I dont think thats anyone elses problem. Thats the point i am trying and clearly failing to make.

Red Bottom 2 kids; Middelfart, Denmark 15275 posts
18th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting meggymama:</b>" I genuinely think it is harrasement, which last time i checked was illegal. Please dont confuse my feelings ... [snip!] ... issues re this subject BUT I dont think thats anyone elses problem. Thats the point i am trying and clearly failing to make."</blockquote>




Your definition of "harassment" is more off than their definition of "murder".



Don't get into debates if you can't handle the other side.

meggymama Due July 30; 97 kids; United Kingdom 510 posts
18th Feb '13
Quoting Red Bottom:" <blockquote><b>Quoting meggymama:</b>" I genuinely think it is harrasement, which last ... [snip!] ... of "harassment" is more off than their definition of "murder". Don't get into debates if you can't handle the other side."


Im not sure what i have been unable to handle.




I gave my opinion and explained that i think whilst everyone is entitled to their own opinion, I do not believe that anyone should be allowed to attack anyone else for making that type of decision.



If there are people bombarding others with quotes, upsetting images and threats then yes, i beleive that would be harrassment.



FWIW I am not reffering to posting links within a debate I was talking about the type of people that PM awful messages to people struggling, stand outside clinics etc. I do not think that is fair nor should it be allowed. how is that wrong?
If you are asked what/where/when how then yeah fine answer but unsolicited attacks are unfair and wrong.

Red Bottom 2 kids; Middelfart, Denmark 15275 posts
18th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting meggymama:</b>" Im not sure what i have been unable to handle. I gave my opinion and explained that i think whilst ... [snip!] ... how is that wrong? If you are asked what/where/when how then yeah fine answer but unsolicited attacks are unfair and wrong."</blockquote>



Quotes and images are probably factual. Good for them for being educated. You should know what you're doing before you do it.



That's not even close to harassment. It's reality.



I'm pro choice but I'm not offended by someone arguing their point with facts.

meggymama Due July 30; 97 kids; United Kingdom 510 posts
18th Feb '13
Quoting Red Bottom:" <blockquote><b>Quoting meggymama:</b>" Im not sure what i have been unable to handle. ... [snip!] ... not even close to harassment. It's reality. I'm pro choice but I'm not offended by someone arguing their point with facts."


Its not the argument i have an issue with, Like i stated I have issue with people attcking others, in a debate/discussion then yes everyone should have a fair chance to provide their opinion.




I have never said that all prolifers are the same, nor have i said there is anything wrong in that. I have an issue with people who impose their beliefs on others when it is not helpful, neccesary or eithical.



Some of the campaign information IS falsified and is damaging, I would not want my child or friend subjected to it if she were ever in that awful position.



I do think it should only ever come to light that someone is pro-choice/prol-life etc in this type of debate, NOT when a woman is making one of the most difficult decisions of her life.

Red Bottom 2 kids; Middelfart, Denmark 15275 posts
18th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting meggymama:</b>" Its not the argument i have an issue with, Like i stated I have issue with people attcking others, in ... [snip!] ... pro-choice/prol-life etc in this type of debate, NOT when a woman is making one of the most difficult decisions of her life. "</blockquote>




And they don't think it's ethical to remove a life.

user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
18th Feb '13

I think using emotionally charged words to guilt or shame someone is disgusting.

Minion Due September 30 (girl); 2 kids; ., GA, United States 21461 posts
18th Feb '13

I don't mind normal pro-life people. It's the crazy pro-lifers who I find disgusting. The ones who post pictures of dead fetuses and abortion videos and say horrible things to people who are pro-choice.
My SIL is rabidly pro-life and told me one time that since I was pro-choice and don't think killing an innocent (unborn) baby is murder, then I should be perfectly ok with her coming over and killing my DD and it's all the same to her. And she was dead serious.

Red Bottom 2 kids; Middelfart, Denmark 15275 posts
18th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Minion:</b>" I don't mind normal pro-life people. It's the crazy pro-lifers who I find disgusting. The ones who post ... [snip!] ... then I should be perfectly ok with her coming over and killing my DD and it's all the same to her. And she was dead serious."</blockquote>




See it bothers me when people are just stupid. You can be pro life and use pictures and blah blah blah. But be educated and use common sense.

KissMeFinnNelson<3 1 child; 2 angel babies; Glasgow, Scotland, UK, United Kingdom 5381 posts
18th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting xTJ:</b>" I'm specifically wondering about ones who will use ... [snip!] ... that abortion is taking an innocent life. People choosing to end that life should understand magnitude of what they are doing."</blockquote>




Women are informed about the procedure before hand, fully informed as is required and I'm quite certain they have complete understanding of the magnitude of the choice they are making, much more so than that of some extremists bombarding them with pointless information.



I don't have an issue with them posting about the developmental stage either however it is pointless particularly to women who have been through a pregnancy who will already be very informed on these type of things. I mean why would a woman care about the developmental stage of a fetus she is gping to terminate? Like I said it's a complete "yada yada yada" *Zzzzzzzz* moment.

KissMeFinnNelson<3 1 child; 2 angel babies; Glasgow, Scotland, UK, United Kingdom 5381 posts
18th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Talena_caro:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting xTJ:</b>" I'm specifically wondering about ones who will use ... [snip!] ... your use the pill.. You have swallowed.. You killed a million sperm which could have made a baby. Sperms a living thing too..""</blockquote>




Well there are those who are very extreme and believe birth control is a sin and all that jazz....... :shock:

KissMeFinnNelson<3 1 child; 2 angel babies; Glasgow, Scotland, UK, United Kingdom 5381 posts
18th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Minion:</b>" I don't mind normal pro-life people. It's the crazy pro-lifers who I find disgusting. The ones who post ... [snip!] ... then I should be perfectly ok with her coming over and killing my DD and it's all the same to her. And she was dead serious."</blockquote>




Ah yes I remember having a convo with you about this in another thread, she be crazy! Lol

Minion Due September 30 (girl); 2 kids; ., GA, United States 21461 posts
18th Feb '13
Quoting xTJ:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Minion:</b>" I don't mind normal pro-life people. It's the crazy ... [snip!] ... dead serious."</blockquote> Ah yes I remember having a convo with you about this in another thread, she be crazy! Lol"


She is!!!! I have so many stories about her!