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CIO Katie[ღ]Siℓas 17 kids; Grand Haven, Michigan 2071 posts
22nd Feb '13

Just curious, I would never do intentional CIO with Silas but another post got me wondering about it.. What if your baby is crying and crying and crying and you ARE trying everything you can to get them to stop, holding, bouncing, rocking, burping, singing, ect and they are still crying so you just stop trying and let them cry while still holding them. Is that considered CIO? Because sometimes I just can't get him to calm down :(



Usually it happens during a feeding when I take the bottle away to burp, he screams his lungs off and I CAN NOT calm him down until I give him the bottle back, but he's got bad reflux so I have to get him to burp or he will spit up everything. So I just let him scream while I'm burping him because nothing helps and he just spits out the paci when he realizes it's not food. Also during diaper changing, he doesn't like being changed AT ALL and it will just take alot longer if I try to calm him down in the middle of it, because he just doesn't calm down until it's over with.



I really don't know if this should have been in the D&D section or not.. sry if that's where it should be. TIA for clearing it up for me, post n run.

Jays*Mama 2 kids; Michigan 5649 posts
22nd Feb '13

I'd say that's colic probably.

applelove 1 child; auburn, CA, United States 6529 posts
22nd Feb '13

What you are doing is not CIO. You are trying to settle a very fussy baby. CIO is not the same at all.

Drunk Blair Waldorf 2 kids; Alpharetta, Georgia 19208 posts
22nd Feb '13

That's not CIO. You aren't neglecting your baby and leaving them to cry with no comfort. Just because the baby doesn't calm down doesn't make it CIO. In those instances you are doing everything you can to meet your baby's needs.

lacTAYtor. ☮ 3 kids; North Carolina 4496 posts
22nd Feb '13

It's not considered CIO in that instance because you're still holding the baby, not laying them down and leaving them to cry.

SavageDarling 3 kids; Webster, Massachusetts 10381 posts
22nd Feb '13

No that's not CIO. Your LO is aware of being held and comforted by you even if it's not working. Sometimes it just doesn't work, and it sounds a bit like your LO might be colicky. My dd was colicky for the first four months of her life. My husband and I never left her alone to cry, we would take turns just pacing with her and rocking her for hours at a time and nothing settled her until she just grew out of it.
CIO does not include constant comfort, it's when you leave LO alone for minutes at a time to cry until they stop on their own.

Katie[ღ]Siℓas 17 kids; Grand Haven, Michigan 2071 posts
23rd Feb '13

Oh that's good, I never looked into CIO because I didn't plan on using it at all after hearing the basics so I wasn't too informed on the subject. I was scared that I was doing it un-intentionally. Thank you ladies.

Loretta West TTC#2 TTC since May 2013; 1 child; Auckland, New Zealand 4630 posts
23rd Feb '13

What about if you're doing the dishes or hanging out the washing or something and they start crying, but you're still talking to them and trying to calm them while quickly trying to finish what you're doing? Would that be considered CIO? I had to do that yesterday to get our dishes done, he was in his bouncer in the kitchen with me and he started crying, I was singing to him and bouncing him with my foot but I only had like 5 plates and a roasting dish to go so I quickly got that done before I picked him up. He'd worked himself up at that point though, took awhile to calm him. I felt really guilty :(

Emily Ann Anita Sobczyk 1 child; Hampshire, Illinois 115 posts
23rd Feb '13

It's not always such a bad thing. I know that at a certain age frame you do want them to learn how to self soothe. I mean clearly if they are crying because they are hungry or have a wet diaper you shouldnt ignore them.. but if they are okay and have everything the need then its not entirely wrong. At least that is what I have read in certain baby books.

applelove 1 child; auburn, CA, United States 6529 posts
24th Feb '13
Quoting Emily Ann Anita Sobczyk:" It's not always such a bad thing. I know that at a certain age frame you do want them to learn how to ... [snip!] ... are okay and have everything the need then its not entirely wrong. At least that is what I have read in certain baby books."


the CIO method is bad for brain cells. this was not always known, but now it is. In some older baby books they might not point out that the CIO method is very bad for babys because they did not always know.



But lucky for use the medical community has learned about
how extended crying affects adrenaline and cortisol the stress hormones. Science has also found that when developing brain tissue is exposed to these hormones for prolonged periods these nerves won