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    • do you think she should be ABLE TO SUE? -- Votes: 49
    • do you think she should NOT BE ABLE TO SUE? -- Votes: 62
Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8554 posts
25th Feb '13
Quoting redneck mamma:" If the baby took a breath outside the womb then the doctor is considered guilty of murder. It's an odd case thats for sure."


How would that even be murder? Negligence, maybe manslaughter. But isn't murder supposed to be premeditated?

MunchkinWrangler 4 kids; Rīga, Latvia 46816 posts
25th Feb '13

First of all, unless this is out of the US, I don't really believe it.



BUT, if it is true... no, I don't think this woman has grounds to sue. She knew how far along she was and she still chose to terminate her pregnancy. The abortion was HER choice, not the clinics. She probably did deliver the baby alive, but it was probably dead almost instantly. A baby THAT premature can not breathe on it's own. It would have died within minutes. After it passed, what else are they going to do with it? I highly doubt anyone going in and getting a late term abortion done wants to keep their fetus and have a funeral. Obviously the baby's life had little meaning to the mother.

lacTAYtor. ☮ 3 kids; North Carolina 4496 posts
25th Feb '13
Quoting grace life:" Is Suffering and Loss a protected forum? Not sure how this works. You might want to move this to debate and discuss."


Yeah, I don't think this is the place for this.

Loretta West [+1] Due March 25; TTC since May 2013; 1 child; Auckland, New Zealand 5742 posts
status 25th Feb '13
Quoting melanie-mommy of 2:" the same way they can kill the baby before they deliver it. because babies have been stripped of their right to life."


They can do what now??



I thought it wasn't legal to have an abortion at 20-something weeks in the states? Also, if the baby was 23 weeks it would need a birth cert and to be properly disposed of or the doc could get done for improper disposal/mistreatment of human remains. This sounds like crap to me.

Heather ♥ Due February 27; 3 kids; Miami, Florida 2432 posts
25th Feb '13

i googled and nothing comes up about it.



however, i don't see how it would be murder if she signed paperwork to have her pregnancy terminated. i know nothing about abortion though so that is my uneducated opinion.

MunchkinWrangler 4 kids; Rīga, Latvia 46816 posts
25th Feb '13
Quoting redneck mamma:" If the baby took a breath outside the womb then the doctor is considered guilty of murder. It's an odd case thats for sure."


Not really...
I mean, if the late-term abortion was legal... it was the mother's choice. I'm sure in a clinic, they don't have the means to resuscitate a baby. If a baby was born THAT premature, even if it took a breath outside of the womb, it would be unable to "breathe" independently on it's own. It would die within minutes of essentially suffocation. It's not the doctor's fault if they did not have the means to save the child.



I'm sure the baby died almost instantly.... and what were they supposed to do with the fetus after it had passed? Wrap it up in gift wrap?



However, I do agree with the doctor being a murderer. I think ANY doctor willing to perform an abortion that late in pregnancy is a murderer. It's sick.

Emily Dickinson 18 kids; Indiana 57831 posts
25th Feb '13

I am flagging this for drama for the sole purpose of removing it from the S&L forum. It does not belong there and needs gone.

Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8554 posts
25th Feb '13
Quoting Lucas'Mama:" They can do what now?? I thought it wasn't legal to have an abortion at 20-something weeks in the ... [snip!] ... disposed of or the doc could get done for improper disposal/mistreatment of human remains. This sounds like crap to me."


Yeah, we do late term abortions in some states.
There are plenty of valid reasons why they're done.

homes cool 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Indiana 60938 posts
25th Feb '13
Quoting Emily Dickinson:" I am flagging this for drama for the sole purpose of removing it from the S&L forum. It does not belong there and needs gone."


I didn't know what the proper thing to do was, I'll flag it along with you.

MunchkinWrangler 4 kids; Rīga, Latvia 46816 posts
25th Feb '13
Quoting Lucas'Mama:" They can do what now?? I thought it wasn't legal to have an abortion at 20-something weeks in the ... [snip!] ... disposed of or the doc could get done for improper disposal/mistreatment of human remains. This sounds like crap to me."

It was probably placed in the biohazard bag and put into a special container to be disposed of properly. The mother probably construed this as "throwing it in the trash." I HIGHLY doubt this was done anywhere in the states because I don't believe late term abortions are legal here.

Emily Dickinson 18 kids; Indiana 57831 posts
25th Feb '13
Quoting grace life:" I didn't know what the proper thing to do was, I'll flag it along with you. "


That is what we used to do.
Get it out of here ASAP.
Some of these grieving mothers don't need to read this crap. Not to mention the fact that it is untrue.

*KatteyBug* Due November 18 (boy); 1 child; Madison, AL, United States 2144 posts
status 25th Feb '13

I tried to google it but nothing is coming up.....?

homes cool 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Indiana 60938 posts
25th Feb '13
Quoting Emily Dickinson:" That is what we used to do. Get it out of here ASAP. Some of these grieving mothers don't need to read this crap. Not to mention the fact that it is untrue."

I couldn't remember, and I totally agree.

Aaliyah Des'rae Due October 25; Columbus, Georgia 60 posts
25th Feb '13

I will try to find you guys the link. I was very shocked also that's why I had to copy & post it. Give me a sec to look it up for you guys.

Emily Dickinson 18 kids; Indiana 57831 posts
25th Feb '13
Quoting *KatteyBug*:" I tried to google it but nothing is coming up.....?"


Because there is no truth to the story. This is a propaganda piece that is put out by people every few years to discuss the heinousness of abortion.