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Optimusfine 1 child; 2 angel babies; Elizabeth, WV, United States 6183 posts
28th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Danielle: Jack&Basil'sMom:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Venus Penis Trap.

_______Nope_________ 23772 posts
28th Feb '13
Quoting PurpleBama582:" Women who have had miscarriages might disagree with you. The loss hurts no matter WHEN it happens, particularly if a woman has been trying for a while to become pregnant. "


I didn't say it didn't hurt. I does. I said that a woman who has a miscarriage at 6 weeks and one who loses a 3 year old are seen as very different things. We are all very saddened by miscarriages, but losing a living breathing child is seen as a tragedy much greater. Whether or not this is true, it's how it is SEEN, proving that they are rarely seen as the same thing.

Danielle: Jack&Basil'sMom 2 kids; Raleigh, North Carolina 14528 posts
28th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting PurpleBama582:</b>" Women who have had miscarriages might disagree with you. The loss hurts no matter WHEN it happens, particularly if a woman has been trying for a while to become pregnant. "</blockquote>




I imagine if you ask a woman if they'd rather miscarry or lose their toddler, they'd save the life of the child already born

Fusselinchen 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Frankfurt, HS, Germany 16209 posts
28th Feb '13
Quoting Amelia Margaret:" Yes it does hurt, but I would never compare it losing living breathing child."


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GTFOGTFO 6 kids; Italy 5611 posts
28th Feb '13
Quoting PurpleBama582:" Women who have had miscarriages might disagree with you. The loss hurts no matter WHEN it happens, particularly if a woman has been trying for a while to become pregnant. "


Feeling that way emotionally/spiritually is one thing, but it still doesn't make a fetus and a child the same thing.
A fetus can philosophically be a "baby" to some people, but a fetus is very scientifically different than a child.

GTFOGTFO 6 kids; Italy 5611 posts
28th Feb '13
Quoting Venus Penis Trap.
PurpleBama582 52 kids; Dothan, Alabama 3875 posts
28th Feb '13

I think that story is a horrible way to try to convince people that abortion is wrong. People are going to feel how they feel. I am personally against abortion, but I do concede to instances where keeping a baby would cause the mother more harm(such as rape or incest). Just because I would never have one myself, does not mean I want to force my opinion on someone else.

Optimusfine 1 child; 2 angel babies; Elizabeth, WV, United States 6183 posts
28th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting -Kaysay-:</b>" Which is why the title of this thread is what it is. ETA: The thread that you made, I see. lol"</blockquote>




Yes. & the reason I said it upset me was because I had a MC and when she said 'rocking a bloody wad of cells to sleep' made me think of my miscarriage..

JΔ$ Georgia 77821 posts
status 28th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting PurpleBama582:</b>" Women who have had miscarriages might disagree with you. The loss hurts no matter WHEN it happens, particularly if a woman has been trying for a while to become pregnant. "</blockquote>



Same goes for some who choose to abort.

Optimusfine 1 child; 2 angel babies; Elizabeth, WV, United States 6183 posts
28th Feb '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting PurpleBama582:</b>" I think that story is a horrible way to try to convince people that abortion is wrong. People are going ... [snip!] ... as rape or incest). Just because I would never have one myself, does not mean I want to force my opinion on someone else. "</blockquote>




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1inpink2inblue Switzerland 11961 posts
28th Feb '13
Quoting PurpleBama582:" Women who have had miscarriages might disagree with you. The loss hurts no matter WHEN it happens, particularly if a woman has been trying for a while to become pregnant. "


Sure it hurts but it is not the same at all. I remember how upset I was when I thought I was miscarrying my 3rd. It was my Ds's 1st birthday and I had to get through his party while bleeding heavily and wanting nothing more than to crawl into my bed and cry. I was sad I was grieving the life and child that could have been and that I was getting ready to meet and love for the rest of my life. Luckily I found out two days later I hadn't lost him. Had my DD or DS had died I would have been unconsolable and half mad with grief. They are my children whom I have raised an nurture and put so much time and love into. I know their little personalities because I watched them develop. those are two totally different things.

NICKEL☮POLIS 2 kids; Ontario 6268 posts
28th Feb '13
Quoting Venus Penis Trap.
user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
28th Feb '13
Quoting NICKEL☮POLIS:" I agree that it is a living thing obviously, because it has a beating heart. But it only has the potential ... [snip!] ... the potential to be a human. An embryo/fetus is no where near the same as a baby/child out of the womb surviving on it's own."

Bacteria are living things and they don't have a heartbeat.

NICKEL☮POLIS 2 kids; Ontario 6268 posts
28th Feb '13
Quoting SAFFY
user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
28th Feb '13
Quoting NICKEL☮POLIS:" ..your point? Sorry if I didn't word it to your liking but to me, that's why I see it as a living thing. Beating heart, blood coursing through it's veins etc."


That the definition of life varies according to who you talk to, that's all.