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Mummy-2-2-Monsters 2 kids; Seven Hills, Australia 8778 posts
4th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" I think your friend's kid sounds like a huge brat. What 5 year old (or ANY student, for that matter) ... [snip!] ... If it was my child, they would be punished and I certainly wouldn't be looking to take action against any teachers or staff."</blockquote>




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All of this. I'd actually think about apologising to said teacher for the way my kid behaved.

~The Lunar Flower~ Due January 13 (boy); 1 child; Alabama 6738 posts
4th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Minion:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ~The Lunar Flower~:</b>" That teacher wasn't being even close ... [snip!] ... BOE. She doesn't know what to say though. She said the teachers acted like they didn't think they did anything wrong at all."</blockquote>



She should explain that the teachers actions are what caused the reaction of foul language & that she doesn't agree with the method used to try to have him mind. I had serious attachment issues as a child & I would have been hysterical if a teacher had done that to me. My sister used to lock me in my room & in the backyard. Being trapped for a child is sometimes traumatizing. The actions of the teacher come off as a 'getting back at him' reaction more than what she meant it to be. I understand saying bye so the child will follow you & starting to walk away but I would never lock my child or anyone elses in a gated area while pretending to walk away

Minion Due September 30 (girl); 2 kids; Toccoa, GA, United States 20048 posts
status 4th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" I think your friend's kid sounds like a huge brat. What 5 year old (or ANY student, for that matter) ... [snip!] ... If it was my child, they would be punished and I certainly wouldn't be looking to take action against any teachers or staff."</blockquote>




Oh he was punished, she said. I don't know what kind of punishment it was though.



He can be pretty bratty sometimes. He called DD and DS little babies when we came over to play one day and DS is older than him.
But it is true he doesn't usually speak like they way he spoke to the teacher.

Minion Due September 30 (girl); 2 kids; Toccoa, GA, United States 20048 posts
status 4th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Just Ames:</b>" :!: This part in the OP is making me LOL: "D NEVER cusses. This is the first time in a very long time ... [snip!] ... nothing but blaming everyone else. If my Son acted like that he'd apologize first and foremost and then be dealt with at home."</blockquote>




He was punished at home, J told me. I'm not sure what kind of punishment it was though.

~*Julie Blue Eyes*~ 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6245 posts
status 4th Mar '13
Quoting ~The Lunar Flower~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Minion:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ~The Lunar Flower~:</b>" ... [snip!] ... you & starting to walk away but I would never lock my child or anyone elses in a gated area while pretending to walk away"


"the teachers actions are what caused the reaction of foul language.."



Awe HECK no! Hold your kid accountable! HE reacted that way because HE wanted to. Whether or not anyone agrees with what the teacher did, the teacher was already REacting to this child misbehavior in the first place. He was already being difficult (bratty IMO), the teacher reacted to it and THEN the kid CUSSED at the teacher!



The sad part is that that child LEARNED that behavior. He sees people act that way and he hears people talk that way. He mimics what he's seen and heard and he came to the conclusion that he was justified in his little five year old mind...which is exactly what you just did. You justified this child's behavior and there is no justifying it. Not at all.

~The Lunar Flower~ Due January 13 (boy); 1 child; Alabama 6738 posts
4th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" "the teachers actions are what caused the reaction of foul language.." Awe HECK no! Hold your kid accountable! ... [snip!] ... old mind...which is exactly what you just did. You justified this child's behavior and there is no justifying it. Not at all."</blockquote>



Let me rephrase that then:



The teachers actions in what she thought was a form of childcare were the cause of the child resorting to a form of panic. It is not the teachers fault he didn't want to leave the playground or that he used the language because she did not teach it to him. She locked him in a gate. She was foolish to think he wouldn't react. He may have overreacted but so did she.

Minion Due September 30 (girl); 2 kids; Toccoa, GA, United States 20048 posts
status 4th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:</b>" "the teachers actions are what caused the reaction of foul language.." Awe HECK no! Hold your kid accountable! ... [snip!] ... old mind...which is exactly what you just did. You justified this child's behavior and there is no justifying it. Not at all."</blockquote>




I agree he learned it from somewhere, but we don't know where. J doesn't cuss at all and D's dad doesn't either. Heck, J even tells me to watch my mouth even when we don't have the kids.
He has been going to play with a kid from school a lot lately. Maybe he's getting it from there. J is stumped.

Monica♥YASDYARDFR 17 kids; Beverly Hills, California 57063 posts
4th Mar '13

I think the teacher was at her witts end and trying to get the kid to listen. It does sound like the child's parents are making excuses. If she wants something done she can talk to the principal. You don't go to the school board until you at least deal with it at the school level. They would just tell her to talk to the principal first.



I can NOT stand when people use the "I'm leaving you" ploy on their kids. The kid knows you aren't leaving. I was at the park and this woman couldn't walk her ass over to get her kid but instead kept yelling "ok we're leaving you." That little girl couldn't have cared less. She was running on the playground having a wonderful time.

Fatty McRunnerPants 2 kids; 4 angel babies; Clearlake, California 59193 posts
4th Mar '13

Honestly, it sounds like the child is a pain in the ass and the teachers were doing the best they could. The fact that the parent is willing to go to the principal over a teacher trying to get the child to behave only speaks to the fact that parenting is inadequate.



What were the teachers supposed to do? They're discouraged from touching the children to make them behave, she probably had 15+ other children to worry about as well. Having have delt with children with behavioral problems (young children, in a professional setting) it's not the tact that I would take but when you're at your witts in you resort to doing almost anything to get the child to cooperate without putting your hands on them in any way. Where I worked touching a child is a serious issue and was to be avoided at all costs.