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user banned TTC since Apr 2014; 2 kids; Middelfart, Denmark 15320 posts
10th Mar '13
Quoting hobbit*:" sure, why not? where i live we have free healthcare so IMO its not different to me having the government pay for my hospital stay and midwife appointment."


Here, everyone has to pay taxes AND pay for their own insurance. So why should someone be paying taxes and insurance for themselves and their children, and then fund someone else's pregnancy because they want to have a baby but NOT pay for insurance? Or not be able to afford health insurance....



Should someone be having a child if they can't even afford to cover their own medical expenses?

lolajessup 3 kids; 1 angel baby; Beaverton, Michigan 44076 posts
10th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Red Bottom:</b>" But if they can't afford insurance, how do they plan on paying for a child? Should a child be used ... [snip!] ... Is it really another tax payer's job to provide you with insurance because you choose to have a child when you can't afford to?"</blockquote>



Not being able to afford private insurance doesn't mean u can't afford a kid.

user banned TTC since Apr 2014; 2 kids; Middelfart, Denmark 15320 posts
10th Mar '13
Quoting Forrest Bondurant &hearts:" Imo, it's.fine. You.spend years paying into it, might as well use it too."


But isn't Medicaid for people who NEED it? Is pregnancy a NEED?

hobbit* 3 kids; New Zealand 44783 posts
10th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Red Bottom:</b>" Like a $17,000 car and a $5,400 sleeve tattoo?"</blockquote>




What would you pay for healthcare insurance annually?

My Brain On Drugs TTC since Sep 2013; 33 kids; Elephant Butte, New Mexico 15758 posts
10th Mar '13

The money situation/Medicaid eligibility is stopping my family planning, at the moment. Of course I would plan to pay out-of-pocket again for a homebirth midwife and use Medicaid only in an emergency. But is my Shit straight? Meaning my SSShit? And it's not. We would make it work if I got pregnant soon, but it's not the most excellent time.

Mama Lizzy :] 1 child; Texas 5575 posts
10th Mar '13

Mmm Idk I think it depends on the situation...like I really only have health insurance for my son for emergencies...we do not vaccinate and do alot of home remedies.
My next baby I hope to birth at home with the assistance of a midwife....not that that matters tho because I Do not receive Medicaid for myself...we also don't receive WIC or food stamps.
We have to put our kids under Medicaid because my SO's job offers a type of insurance that would cost us way more then our house payment 0_0 we can't afford it :(. If we didn't have Medicaid for our son he would not have health insurance.



I plan on having at least one more baby.

Mrs. Conan O'Brien 2 kids; Colorado 20924 posts
10th Mar '13

Ehh. I don't know... I guess it isn't something I necessarily agree w/ or would try to do. But it doesn't bother me that much.

Donna Jo Tanner 1 child; Beach Haven, New Jersey 6440 posts
10th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Red Bottom:</b>" But if they can't afford insurance, how do they plan on paying for a child? Should a child be used ... [snip!] ... Is it really another tax payer's job to provide you with insurance because you choose to have a child when you can't afford to?"</blockquote>




Well I honestly feel like health insurance costs more than a child. My son doesn't and has never costed me $60+ dollars a week! When I had DS I couldnt afford health insurance but I sure as hell took care of him without ANY help from the government.
Just saying if someone really wanted to be a mother and would be able to provide for the child throughout life but maybe just needed a little push to get them the care they need while doing so? I would gladly pay their bill out of my own pocket.

user banned California 36390 posts
10th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Red Bottom:</b>" But isn't Medicaid for people who NEED it? Is pregnancy a NEED?"</blockquote>



I know it sounds petty but there are tons of people on Medicaid who are frauding or milking the system. If a lack if insurance is the only thing standing between me and a baby and we can afford everything else, then why the hell not? We pay in, we should get to reap the benefits too. And there are.income limits.

lolajessup 3 kids; 1 angel baby; Beaverton, Michigan 44076 posts
10th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Red Bottom:</b>" Like a $17,000 car and a $5,400 sleeve tattoo?"</blockquote>



Yeah that'd be irresponsible. But not everyone lives that way. Some people live modestly.

user banned TTC since Apr 2014; 2 kids; Middelfart, Denmark 15320 posts
10th Mar '13
Quoting lolajessup:" Not everyone has access to insurance through their jobs. Why can't u have a kid just because this country ... [snip!] ... don't make much money because economy here sucks so we are Medicaid eligible. That means we shouldn't be allowed to have kids?"


There are affordable private insurance plans that you can purchase.



This particular person was able to get it from her job but chose not to, to pay for her $17,000 car instead.

user banned TTC since Apr 2014; 2 kids; Middelfart, Denmark 15320 posts
10th Mar '13
Quoting lolajessup:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Red Bottom:</b>" But if they can't afford insurance, how do ... [snip!] ... when you can't afford to?"</blockquote> Not being able to afford private insurance doesn't mean u can't afford a kid."



Private insurance plans run as low as $100 a month. If you can't afford $100 a month, you cannot afford a child. A child is on average, at least $11,000 a year.

user banned TTC since Apr 2014; 2 kids; Middelfart, Denmark 15320 posts
10th Mar '13
Quoting hobbit*:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Red Bottom:</b>" Like a $17,000 car and a $5,400 sleeve tattoo?"</blockquote> What would you pay for healthcare insurance annually?"


Would I or do I?

user banned TTC since Apr 2014; 2 kids; Middelfart, Denmark 15320 posts
10th Mar '13
Quoting AllHeCanEat{EBFT}:" The money situation/Medicaid eligibility is stopping my family planning, at the moment. Of course I would ... [snip!] ... straight? Meaning my SSShit? And it's not. We would make it work if I got pregnant soon, but it's not the most excellent time."


I think it's great that you acknowledge that. Do you mind if I ask why you're still TTC though, if you admit it's not the best time to have a child?

I'm His Amy He's My Rory 2 kids; Caldwell, Idaho 49349 posts
10th Mar '13

I'm on both sides. I think it's BS we're in one of the only countries that think medical care is only for those with money to afford it and being healthy is a privileged. I don't have a problem with someone being on medicaid as long as they don't abuse it. Hell, my taxes go into that stuff. If I need it, I'm going to use it. When we were TTC our son, we had AMAZING insurance. I had 100% coverage with NO copays of anything at all, after one $30 payment initially. However just after I got pregnant, they took our insurance away at my husband's company. I'd had coverage when we tried, but we lost it. I also don't think a child should have to suffer because the adults of this country don't think they deserve to be healthy. I don't think though that someone who's "in the system" and can't support themselves, such as lives on food stamps and complains that they can't eat the last week of the month so they can feed their kid they have now, should be TTC and I know some that do.