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Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
12th Mar '13
Quoting ☠Jenniefahhh:" Dolphins gang rape."


Dolphins are a*****es.



But I really want to swim with one!

Iron Man 6 kids; 1 angel baby; 1700 posts
12th Mar '13
Quoting Dovahkiin:" By "survive on one's own", it means they can breathe and physically function outside of the womb. It doesn't mean little Charlie Jr., 5 weeks old, is going to get a job and support himself. "


Lol, that was strangle ironic...My oldest son's name is Charlie.



Okay, so I'll keep pressing here, and hope I'm not being an ass. :D If a child is, say, born with an underdeveloped lung, does that then leave him a fetus, rather than a baby?

[Gryffinwhore♥] Due March 3; 34 kids; Poulsbo, Washington 32770 posts
12th Mar '13
Quoting Iron Man:" Well, I'm going to cautiously say that the majority of abortions happen for other reasons than rape or ... [snip!] ... were raped, or that you have some rare condition that will kill you if you deliver the child. Feel free to prove otherwise! :D"


What about a responsibility to the children I already have? Say I have sex and regardless of whatever precautions I take, I get pregnant. Me having that baby is going to put me into trouble financially, because I can't afford it. Also because I'd have to take time off of work (because I know you'll argue adoption). And probably emotionally, because, hey, that's a lot to worry about.



Should I put the needs of the fetus above the needs of my already living, breathing, 3 and 4 year old children?

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
12th Mar '13
Quoting Brink:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Dovahkiin:</b>" True. Technically anything with a metabolic ... [snip!] ... without that cell, they simply "exist." :shock: Sorry, nerd moment over."</blockquote> Well damn :? Didn't know that"


Try explaining it to kids, they literally stare at you like you told them they have to eat live baby seals for lunch.

☠Jenniefahhh 1 child; Djibouti 70775 posts
12th Mar '13
Quoting Dovahkiin:" Dolphins are a*****es. But I really want to swim with one! "


I have 3 tattooed on my back :lol:

[Gryffinwhore♥] Due March 3; 34 kids; Poulsbo, Washington 32770 posts
12th Mar '13
Quoting Dovahkiin:" True. Technically anything with a metabolic system is alive. Random science fact: You know how when ... [snip!] ... "killed!" Viruses attach themselves to a living cell; without that cell, they simply "exist." :shock: Sorry, nerd moment over."


Learn something new everyday!

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
12th Mar '13
Quoting Iron Man:" Lol, that was strangle ironic...My oldest son's name is Charlie. Okay, so I'll keep pressing here, ... [snip!] ... being an ass. :D If a child is, say, born with an underdeveloped lung, does that then leave him a fetus, rather than a baby?"


No, I already asked a similar question a few pages back. :lol:



If it is born, it is a baby, regardless if it is living, deceased, or will be deceased within a few minutes.

......... nowhere, NW, United States 25972 posts
12th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Iron Man:</b>" True, but the ability to have sex for reasons other than procreation is unique to humans and dolphins. Seriously, dolphins are the only other species known to have sex for pleasure."</blockquote>




Not true.

princessava New York 500 posts
12th Mar '13

Loving this discussion! You guys are bringing up really good points that I'm definitely using in my essay :D

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
12th Mar '13
Quoting princessava:" Loving this discussion! You guys are bringing up really good points that I'm definitely using in my essay :D"


Yay, glad to help.



This is one of the calmest topics that glides over abortion I've ever been in.

......... nowhere, NW, United States 25972 posts
12th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Dovahkiin:</b>" Some ape species masturbate and even participate in gang rapes. "</blockquote>




Yup.
There's a video that was going around a while ago of a chimp using a frog to masturbate with. It was messed up...lol

Hy'ska 2 kids; Washington 50677 posts
12th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Dovahkiin:</b>" Try explaining it to kids, they literally stare at you like you told them they have to eat live baby seals for lunch. "</blockquote>




Yeah my class wouldn't get it lol I'm going to see how my 9 yr old stepson responds

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
12th Mar '13
Quoting ~Ice Princess~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Dovahkiin:</b>" Some ape species masturbate and even participate ... [snip!] ... Yup. There's a video that was going around a while ago of a chimp using a frog to masturbate with. It was messed up...lol"


Lol, I seriously cannot deal with apes and monkeys. I love animals and am all for their rights, but I just really don't like them... they disgust me.

......... nowhere, NW, United States 25972 posts
12th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Dovahkiin:</b>" Lol, I seriously cannot deal with apes and monkeys. I love animals and am all for their rights, but I just really don't like them... they disgust me. "</blockquote>




Kind of like some people I know. :D

princessava New York 500 posts
12th Mar '13
Quoting Dovahkiin:" Yay, glad to help. This is one of the calmest topics that glides over abortion I've ever been in. "



It's definitely the calmest discussion I've ever seen. I was pretty hesitant about asking this question because I know how some women get very heated about it so I'm glad everyone's being relaxed and reasonable!