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user banned Des Moines, Iowa 1848 posts
19th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Destiel:</b>" people generally dont find out about ectopics til 6-8 weeks. I foresee a lot of women dying due to internal bleeding"</blockquote>




Does this count as an abortion knowing that the pregnancy is not viable, though?

Fatty McRunnerPants 2 kids; 4 angel babies; Clearlake, California 59390 posts
19th Mar '13
Quoting Jennybananna:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:</b>" :!: This is why I love California. ... [snip!] ... abortions for low income women."</blockquote> Hell it's a $10 or $20 copay with my insurance regardless of the type."


Oh that's really good! I think my insurance only covers 80% of the cost. But I love that MediCal covers it. I feel that if a woman can't afford a child there shouldn't be a financial barrier in place to terminate.

Jennybananna 2 kids; Gilbert, AZ, United States 25079 posts
19th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:</b>" Oh that's really good! I think my insurance only covers 80% of the cost. But I love that MediCal covers ... [snip!] ... MediCal covers it. I feel that if a woman can't afford a child there shouldn't be a financial barrier in place to terminate."</blockquote>




Fully agree I'd rather my tax dollars pay for an abortion than an unwanted child

user banned Vancouver, British Columbia 5643 posts
19th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting 5 til Gwen:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Nathaniel'sMom:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting kate ... [snip!] ... it impossible to get one, why do you think people would be more willing to pay to drive a stranger to another STATE for one?"</blockquote>




Even if the ratio wouldn't be "sufficient" at least they might be able to help some people.

[Boats&Hoes] 2 kids; Youngstown, Ohio 62966 posts
19th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Nathaniel'sMom:</b>" I would just drive to a different state."</blockquote>




This was my first thought. It would suck if I didn't have gas money for the trip. I guess I'd put the old wire hanger to use if I couldn't afford to go to the next state.

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
19th Mar '13
Quoting Safka9973:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Destiel:</b>" people generally dont find out about ectopics ... [snip!] ... to internal bleeding"</blockquote> Does this count as an abortion knowing that the pregnancy is not viable, though?"


yep ... El Salvador and Nigeria refuse abortions for ectopics because there is a heartbeat and technically its a normal embryo.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22985 posts
19th Mar '13

I'm pro-choice but with lots of restrictions.
The ones in this bill are WAY too restrictive. It won't stand.

Destinite 1 child; 2 angel babies; Paradise, FL, United States 31339 posts
19th Mar '13

Why not just ban them all together, b/c that is exactly what they are doing. No clinic will perform an abortion on a patient that is 5 weeks, as that is considered too early and they'd have to wait until 6 weeks, which according to this is illegal.

Nameless Ghoul 2 kids; Sweden 6452 posts
19th Mar '13

Disagree completely!

★Mommarazzi★ 1 child; Arkansas 9689 posts
19th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Destinite:</b>" Why not just ban them all together, b/c that is exactly what they are doing. No clinic will perform an ... [snip!] ... that is 5 weeks, as that is considered too early and they'd have to wait until 6 weeks, which according to this is illegal."</blockquote>




Bc it is unconstitutional for them to actually make it illegal so they can't do that. But I'm sure soon this will be found unconstitutional as well bc they are putting to many constructions on it. But it will take a while for that to happen.

Destinite 1 child; 2 angel babies; Paradise, FL, United States 31339 posts
19th Mar '13
Quoting ★Mommarazzi★:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Destinite:</b>" Why not just ban them all together, b/c that ... [snip!] ... be found unconstitutional as well bc they are putting to many constructions on it. But it will take a while for that to happen."

Well, hopefully it will get thrown out b/c they're basically making it illegal with this 5 week stipulation.

★Mommarazzi★ 1 child; Arkansas 9689 posts
19th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Destinite:</b>" Well, hopefully it will get thrown out b/c they're basically making it illegal with this 5 week stipulation."</blockquote>




I know! It's ridiculous! Oklahoma tried to do something similar a few years ago. They passed all these laws that made it almost impossible to get an abortion and it was later thrown out. So hopefully this will happen soon!

Amelia [a Mom] 1 child; 4 angel babies; Tallahassee, Florida 15038 posts
status 19th Mar '13
Quoting White Chocolate Milk:" Even if it has passed it won't be long before it is taken away. Nothing like that would stand with Roe ... [snip!] ... that makes it basically impossible for abortions to continue. Last I heard the last abortion clinic was closing in January."


These are the ones that are really scary. Bills like the one mentioned in the OP don't get passed because they're so extreme and most of the population just isn't that crazy. It's the ones that fly under the radar and get attached to other bills making it difficult for abortion clinics to stay open, that get passed and are therefore much more concerning.

White Chocolate Milk 1 child; Chelsea, Alabama 12303 posts
19th Mar '13
Quoting Amelia Margaret:" These are the ones that are really scary. Bills like the one mentioned in the OP don't get passed because ... [snip!] ... to other bills making it difficult for abortion clinics to stay open, that get passed and are therefore much more concerning."


That's how I feel. The ND one won't stand. There has already been a supreme court case against stuff like this, so it won't last long. Anything that radical won't last. But sneaking it in, because a state isn't required to have an abortion clinic is really the kicker.

★Mommarazzi★ 1 child; Arkansas 9689 posts
19th Mar '13

I wonder about the 6 people who said they agree with it. Why do you agree with it? Just curious why anyone thinks this is a good thing (other than people who are completely pro-life. I get that)