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TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23132 posts
22nd Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Destiel:</b>" Here it is. Maternity cover AND all health care for children until they're 16 is part of the public ... [snip!] ... elective c-sections or inductions, alcohol with your meals, up to 12 days on the ward, and an obstetrician of your choosing. "</blockquote>




I prefer a society in which people take more personal responsibility.... But that's me.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23132 posts
22nd Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting kthx.:</b>" I had planned on it, because when I had looked through my insurance papers... I guess I was looking ... [snip!] ... plan that will cover part of pregnancy.. I think 80%. But, I don't see the harm in anyone else using medicaid to TTC. -shrug-"</blockquote>




As ive said, I see a problem with not setting standards for ones self high enough to include self-sufficiency before taking responsibility for another life.
I don't know how that can even enter a persons mind as an option.

Peyton'sMommy♥ 1 child; Springfield, Ohio 16811 posts
22nd Mar '13
Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Peyton'sMommy♥:</b>" DH has had 3 different jobs they ... [snip!] ... will not cover pre existing conditions."</blockquote> What field is he in? Why wouldn't you get a job with benefits?"

He does many different jobs mainly loss prevention and security. They offer benefits but will not cover me even if he applied for insurance for me. They stated I have too many pre-existing conditions. I can't work right now I have a 20 month old son and me working would only be able to supply daycare money for our son and nothing else, as well as I have health conditions that prevent me from being able to work.

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
22nd Mar '13
Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Destiel:</b>" Here it is. Maternity cover AND all health care ... [snip!] ... your choosing. "</blockquote> I prefer a society in which people take more personal responsibility.... But that's me."


:?



Ah ha ... and if we don't take any personal responsibility how come our unemployment levels are far lower than yours and our literacy rates far higher?

FroggysMommy 1 child; Golden, Colorado 27581 posts
23rd Mar '13
Quoting kthx.:" I had planned on it, because when I had looked through my insurance papers... I guess I was looking ... [snip!] ... plan that will cover part of pregnancy.. I think 80%. But, I don't see the harm in anyone else using medicaid to TTC. -shrug-"


Honestly, I don't either. I think we should have national healthcare as it is. Some people say "Well if you can't afford medical you can't afford a child!"



Well honestly a family can be well off enough to have a child, be loving enough... but can't afford healthcare. It is sickening how expensive healthcare is in this nation.



I can't work over 20 hours a week or I may have my medical revoked, and I CANT have that happen. My medicine and doctors visits require me to need medicaid. All these "Get yo ass off medicaid!" people can eat my ass because yeah, I require a lot of money. A LOT of medical goes into the issues I'm having. But I dare any one of those people to NOT have insurance and be told "You may have cancer of the brain!" and not have the money for the test. Tell me, how will you go about your life after that, knowing you can't take a test and you may be dying! IT SUCKS. It also sucks to have an issue where you bleed so bad you could have died. So... without medicaid I would have been FUCKED because of the surgeries I've needed. I can't work if it takes my medical away. Once I get a teaching job I will have insurance and all will be gravy. But I work in retail... even if I worked for 235 hours (I just did the math) a month I'd only be able to cover one shot I need every month. The rest I wouldn't be able to get. So tell me, what the hell am I supposed to do when I can't even work the hours necessary to get one shot.... just go without necessary care because tough shit, I cant afford insurance? The sad thing is people DO expect that. THEY have to pay for their insurance, so you need to as well or you need to do without.



Yeah, if I did that I'd die. And my child would go to the father she's never met.



So, yeah, no. Until I can use my degree and get healthcare I will do what's necessary for me to stay healthy. It's sad that you need to be rich to afford medical.



So if people TTC on medicaid, honestly I don't care. Because the healthcare status in this country is disgusting. Perfect families can be well off enough to really afford a kid, be GREAT parents, but their jobs don't have medical and they can't afford it. If that's whats holding a family back, then ya know... have a kid. I was young and with family support I had Lily. But I needed to go on medicaid for the first time (I've had 2 periods of my life on medicaid). I had fantastic support, I was busting my ass in school, I took care of a child without my ex's help, I shouldn't have to abort my kid or have put her up for adoption just because I couldn't afford medical. And that's the only public aid I've ever been on, but my Mom does have food stamps and obviously I am counted in that as part of her household. But ya know, we are a good family and we do work hard. I worked my ass off for my degree and I love having my degree but I can't get a job within the field right now. I am not currently working right now, I can't work. But I still work hard for my family within my family.



People are so quick to judge and make blanket statement rules, and they don't realize it HURTS society more than helping it to so-called get people on their feet :/

kthx. Due January 13 (girl); Cleves, Ohio 66948 posts
23rd Mar '13
Quoting FroggysMommy:" Honestly, I don't either. I think we should have national healthcare as it is. Some people say "Well ... [snip!] ... blanket statement rules, and they don't realize it HURTS society more than helping it to so-called get people on their feet :/"


VWS.

FroggysMommy 1 child; Golden, Colorado 27581 posts
23rd Mar '13
Quoting kthx.:" VWS."


Oh no, be careful, we may get people calling us lazy leechers or some shit like that ;)



I REALLY do want to hear what people would do if they were told such a thing like they may have brain cancer. Or imagine needing surgery to fix blood clots coming out of your uterus that are bigger than your hand outstretched, and really thick. Should they just... wear a pad? lol I mean really, what do people expect when shit happens and you NEED costly medical all of a sudden.

kthx. Due January 13 (girl); Cleves, Ohio 66948 posts
23rd Mar '13
Quoting FroggysMommy:" Oh no, be careful, we may get people calling us lazy leechers or some shit like that ;) I REALLY do ... [snip!] ... just... wear a pad? lol I mean really, what do people expect when shit happens and you NEED costly medical all of a sudden."


I ended up in the ER in 2011 because of bleeding. I would sit on the toilet and pass half dollar sized clots... one after another. All I had to do was push... it was almost like a contraction (I have no idea what those are like... but that's the best I can explain it as). With each 'tightening', I'd push and pass clots.. along with thick red blood. I was going through a Super + tampon and a pad in about 10 minutes. I was on the verge of needing a blood transfusion when I got to the hospital. It was AWFUL. And I had no insurance. I was home from college, working that summer before going back... and I didn't qualify for medicaid. I went through that for about 2 days, because I kept telling myself I couldn't afford an ER visit. Had I waited any longer, I would've bled out.




So I totally feel you.

taking a look at life Palm beach gardens, FL, United States 49151 posts
23rd Mar '13
Quoting kthx.:" I ended up in the ER in 2011 because of bleeding. I would sit on the toilet and pass half dollar sized ... [snip!] ... I kept telling myself I couldn't afford an ER visit. Had I waited any longer, I would've bled out. So I totally feel you. "


I did need 2 transfussions with my daughter if it were not for medcaid can u imiganige my bill i also had to have an emergency d and c after having her because i did not pass her plecenta i could just see my bill adding up... Even on my on health care i most likely would have been thousnads of doallers in debt... My husband got really sick 3 yrs ago on privite health inchurance, and lost his job over him being in the hospital. He could not move and was in the ICU we still owe a good part of his bills but they are up over 50,000 dollars.

Amelia [a Mom] 1 child; 4 angel babies; Tallahassee, Florida 16215 posts
23rd Mar '13
Quoting FroggysMommy:" Oh no, be careful, we may get people calling us lazy leechers or some shit like that ;) I REALLY do ... [snip!] ... just... wear a pad? lol I mean really, what do people expect when shit happens and you NEED costly medical all of a sudden."


That's why it's there.

Back to Noob Status Ohio 14048 posts
23rd Mar '13

I think it is a bad idea all around, but then again, healthcare is ridiculously expensive in this country.