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another FS D&D :) S U Z I E 3 kids; Venezuela 18556 posts
22nd Mar '13

Ok, here is something I've been curious about. There have been several D&D's lately about FS (some of which are now in TDC...)
Lots of people who recieve FS, get more than than they actually need/use, and so it rolls over. Based on their income, the gov't gives them what they feel a family of that size should spend on groceries in a month. If the gov't thinks that a family of 4, should recieve $650 a month for FS, they are basing that on food prices and how much (in theory..) that family needs to provide adequate nutrition to their household. People get up in arms, saying they spend way less on that a month for their family of the same size, and that people should spend their FS frugally and only buy nutritional food.
My questions are:
1. What should these people do with these "extra" FS that roll over each month? Is it still not ok for them to buy cookies, soda and chips, if they've already bought nutritious food, because it's a "luxury" that you believe they should only be able to buy with their own money? Or because it's not nutrtional?
2. If the gov't estimates that $650 is needed to nourish a family of 4, then should people (who are complaining that those on FS eat better than they do) who don't qualify for FS, be getting rid of some of their "extras" so that they can provide the same things that people on FS get with their money? Maybe it's not people on FS who need to be thrifty, but people who don't qualify for FS, should be putting more money into their grocery fund, and get rid of some of their "wants", to adequately provide for their family?

Just trying to understand differences of opinion on the subject... :)

IDGAF ❤ 1 child; Don't worry about it, CA, United States 30706 posts
22nd Mar '13

I still don't give a damn as to what people do with their fs. I never even heard anyone care about who buys what with their fs until I got on BG lol. It never even crossed my mind before to even care what people bought with their fs. Not my business...people act like soo much of their taxes go to welfare when in actuality it is like 12 cents lol. People should be bitching about those huge companies who pocket 9k of their tax dollars.

[JadeLee] 1 child; Minnesota 12190 posts
22nd Mar '13

When I was on FS I allowed it to roll over and used it after I could no longer receive FS. It helped me budget my money for food without taking it away all at once. I never bought "luxury"food.

BareFootBabyMaker Due May 30 (boy); 2 kids; Springfield, Missouri 850 posts
22nd Mar '13

I personally don't really have an opinion on people who get FS...if you get them great, if not well...budget accordingly.
My aunt, however, is always bitching about her taxes going to feed people who can work while her cabinets remain empty. This is how I see it...she maxes out her credit cards monthly on luxuries, upgrades her phone/car every two years, and splurges on unnecessary items. If she was so worried about the food in her cabinets she could find the funds to do some grocery shopping.

Sarah ♥ K&K 2 kids; South Land, CA, United States 120826 posts
22nd Mar '13
Quoting IDGAF ❤:" I still don't give a damn as to what people do with their fs. I never even heard anyone care about who ... [snip!] ... in actuality it is like 12 cents lol. People should be bitching about those huge companies who pocket 9k of their tax dollars."


Absofuckinlutely!!!

B-Baby 1 child; 1 angel baby; CARROLLTON, Virginia 1795 posts
22nd Mar '13

I know when SO was receiving FS they told him that he constantly had a substantial amount roll over each month they would cut it back.. which makes since IMO.

drunk faith1 1 child; Alabama 10081 posts
22nd Mar '13
Quoting IDGAF ❤:" I still don't give a damn as to what people do with their fs. I never even heard anyone care about who ... [snip!] ... in actuality it is like 12 cents lol. People should be bitching about those huge companies who pocket 9k of their tax dollars."

This, pretty much.



If I have extra money in my budget at the end of the month, I use it to buy steak usually :lol:

IDGAF ❤ 1 child; Don't worry about it, CA, United States 30706 posts
22nd Mar '13
Quoting ⚓ Sarah ⚓:" Absofuckinlutely!!!"

If people are soo worried about 12 f**king cents being lost, I will throw them 12 cents so they can stfu and mind their own business.

B-Baby 1 child; 1 angel baby; CARROLLTON, Virginia 1795 posts
22nd Mar '13
Quoting [JadeLee]:" When I was on FS I allowed it to roll over and used it after I could no longer receive FS. It helped me budget my money for food without taking it away all at once. I never bought "luxury"food."

Really? When SO lost his FS he had until the end of the month and lost whatever was left.

Sarah ♥ K&K 2 kids; South Land, CA, United States 120826 posts
22nd Mar '13
Quoting IDGAF ❤:" If people are soo worried about 12 f**king cents being lost, I will throw them 12 cents so they can stfu and mind their own business."


I feel the same when I see those graphics going around facebook.

Destinite 1 child; 2 angel babies; Paradise, FL, United States 31529 posts
22nd Mar '13

See, I guess I look at it from a different stand point. I don't feel people on FS eat better than I do b/c I eat pretty damn well and rarely do I buy junk or anything like that b/c I simply don't eat it. My husband and son do from time to time, so that is how some junk creeps into my house (when Dh goes to the store).
Anyhoo, I would think if the FS are rolling over each month, then it is up to the state to evaluate and set it to what they are actually spending.
BUT, with that being said, I don't feel someone is abusing the stamps if they are rolling those funds regularly.

Destinite 1 child; 2 angel babies; Paradise, FL, United States 31529 posts
22nd Mar '13
Quoting IDGAF ❤:" I still don't give a damn as to what people do with their fs. I never even heard anyone care about who ... [snip!] ... in actuality it is like 12 cents lol. People should be bitching about those huge companies who pocket 9k of their tax dollars."


It is a lot more than 12 cents. Usually if someone is collecting FS, they're using medicaid, which in theory all of the programs combined can provide up to 80k per year in benefits.



3 little monsters 3 kids; Olathe, Colorado 50990 posts
22nd Mar '13

I don't see how people think $650 a month is too much. I think that's about right. $650 divided by 4 is about $162 per person in a family of 4 to feed them for 1 month. What kid doesn't deserve treats because his parents don't make as much money as other parents. While I think they should offer nutrition classes I really don't care how anyone spends their food stamps as long as they are fed. Nobody should go hungry. If someone is allotted a certain amount monthly I don't think they should lose part of that if they didn't get it all spent in time. That roll over could come in handy for extra food expenses outside of their regular grocery bill like emergency food and water supplies

Sarah ♥ K&K 2 kids; South Land, CA, United States 120826 posts
22nd Mar '13
Quoting 3 little monsters:" I don't see how people think $650 a month is too much. I think that's about right. $650 divided by 4 ... [snip!] ... over could come in handy for extra food expenses outside of their regular grocery bill like emergency food and water supplies"


Agreed



Our food prices fluctuate also. Depending on gas prices and shipping costs. Whose to say that roll over of $50-$100 wont come in handy when that happens.

Jackie Burkhart ♡ 1 child; Wisconsin 7270 posts
22nd Mar '13

I didn't know it was a big debate either until I got on here. I saw a big debate about someone buying lobster and steak with FS before and I just thought...So?



My mother received FS when I was growing up, and we always had plenty of fruit and healthy food but, we also had sodas and other "goodies." I don't think it's right to say, someone can't indulge on sweets because they're receiving government assistance if all other needs are met. I don't think it's anyone's business what they're buying whether is fruit, sodas, or lobsters. I know a lot of people who don't even use them and sell them instead. Which is NOT okay but, it's not my business. I don't care. I don't put much thought into it.