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The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
24th Mar '13
Quoting Derp:" Fatty, don't get me wrong because I respect the hell out of you and have always admired your opinion ... [snip!] ... How do we account for all of that when we can't even manage what we have going now? Not to get too political or anything."


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SO only gets a dietician because we have a public health system and he's considered large enough now to warrant intervention.

Fatty McRunnerPants 2 kids; 4 angel babies; Clearlake, California 59390 posts
24th Mar '13
Quoting Derp:" Fatty, don't get me wrong because I respect the hell out of you and have always admired your opinion ... [snip!] ... How do we account for all of that when we can't even manage what we have going now? Not to get too political or anything."


I think in the long run it would help lower costs. An ounce of prevention is worth more than a pound of cure in this case.



I pay $20/ week for one hour of personal training with someone who also knows a hell of a lot about nutrition. For any person with a regular metabolisim she could have gotten them whipped into shape. So take just a year of one hour a week with someone who knows what the hell they're doing: that's only $1,000. ONE ER bill just to walk in the door and have your blood drawn is normally well over $1000. Reduce the risk of obesity via fitness and nutrition, reduce the instances of obesity related illness, most notably heart disease and diabetes. I'm not saying that it should be completely covered but some sort of subsidy to make it available to the masses would go a long way especially for those already on medicaide.

Derp Due January 10; 1 child; Camp Lejeune, NC, United States 11596 posts
24th Mar '13

I don't think taxpayers should have to foot the bill for people's dietitians. I'm all for better education regarding food though and fortunately we're starting to see more of that.



It's pretty common sense though, you know? Natural = good. There are very few all natural foods that are terribly fattening and even those sugars are broken down by the human body much easier.



One of my favorite healthy things to eat is oatmeal. I eat probably two bowls a day with whole milk. After that I eat some yogurt and maybe a few other snacks and eventually eat whatever I've cooked for dinner. I have a hard time keeping weight on that diet, let alone gaining the stuff. I don't exercise either. I'm probably in terrible shape but my diet isn't horrendous like it used to be.

Fatty McRunnerPants 2 kids; 4 angel babies; Clearlake, California 59390 posts
24th Mar '13
Quoting Red Bottom:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:</b>" Pft, they should be doing more ... [snip!] ... and discounts for fitness coaching."</blockquote> There's nothing cheaper than fruits and vegetables...."


I think the problem with healthy food is people don't know how to prepare it properly. I do think that it can be more expensive than, say, canned veggies. It's also a hell of a lot more perishable. It also comes down to educating people on how to prepare it. If you don't know how to do so it can be a PITA. Trying to change a person's eating habits overnight when they've eaten nothing but junk their whole life just doesn't work. Then when they see fresh veggies go bad in their fridge they're all like "why the hell didn't I buy canned" or "I could have still had twinkies sitting up there".

Derp Due January 10; 1 child; Camp Lejeune, NC, United States 11596 posts
24th Mar '13

Oatmeal FTW.

Fatty McRunnerPants 2 kids; 4 angel babies; Clearlake, California 59390 posts
24th Mar '13
Quoting Derp:" I don't think taxpayers should have to foot the bill for people's dietitians. I'm all for better education ... [snip!] ... gaining the stuff. I don't exercise either. I'm probably in terrible shape but my diet isn't horrendous like it used to be. "


If common sense were common we wouldn't be having this conversation :lol:



I'd rather the tax payers foot the bill for a dietician once a month than a lot of the bullshit we spend money on. Growing up my mom was a single mom of 6. Convienence was the name of the game and I honestly don't think she really knew any better. Still don't. My diet consisted of frozen pizzas, TV dinners, pop tarts, and a whole bunch of other processed junk. The only vegitable in the house was iceburg lettuce that was smothered in ranch dressing. I didn't even KNOW what an artichoke was or many other things. It took me many years and tons of research to come up with a diet that worked for me. And now, yes, I eat a lot more veggies I still opt for convience, buying the pre cut stuff in a plastic bag I can steam in the microwave :lol:

Red Bottom 2 kids; Middelfart, Denmark 15275 posts
24th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:</b>" I think the problem with healthy food is people don't know how to prepare it properly. I do think that ... [snip!] ... bad in their fridge they're all like "why the hell didn't I buy canned" or "I could have still had twinkies sitting up there"."</blockquote>




If you don't eat healthy because you can't pop it in a microwave and have a meal prepared you're inherently lazy and doomed to be unhealthy.



People are so incompetent.



Cut shit up and eat it. Cave men did it.



Entitlement these days is reaching new levels.

Red Bottom 2 kids; Middelfart, Denmark 15275 posts
24th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:</b>" If common sense were common we wouldn't be having this conversation :lol: I'd rather the tax payers ... [snip!] ... eat a lot more veggies I still opt for convience, buying the pre cut stuff in a plastic bag I can steam in the microwave :lol:"</blockquote>




You know what's convenient? Taking a bit out if an apple....they grow on trees.

user banned 2 kids; Vientiane, Lao People's Democratic Republic 17415 posts
24th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:</b>" Pft, they should be doing more than that. They should be making health food more affordable, pushing ... [snip!] ... health insurance cover non invasive treatment for obesity such as optional nutiritionists, and discounts for fitness coaching."</blockquote>




They do! The education needs to start early. My son is at a public school, the kitchen garden and kitchen are funded by the government, it's teaching kids the joy of eating fresh healthy foods. His school also has a nude food policy, food can't have wrappings which are not re usable. It forces people to make good choices! You can't just put a candy bar in... It has a wrapper! Lol
They have fresh fruit provided by the government every Friday... This is every school.
These investments are nothing compared to the outgoings on obesity health issues.
Also rember we pretty much get free health care here, desteils husband seeing a dietitian free sounds normal, it's an important part of heth care.



Now seriously do any of you know anything about coconut oil?!

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
24th Mar '13
Quoting THE KATIE PRICE:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Fatty McRunnerPants:</b>" Pft, they should be doing more ... [snip!] ... free sounds normal, it's an important part of heth care. Now seriously do any of you know anything about coconut oil?!"


Its also because they would rather pay for that than pay for the lap band surgery that his GP wanted him to have. We talked to medicare and they preferred for him to try this with a dietician and personal trainer than for them to have to pay for ongoing maintenance of lapbanding.

P Pickle Pants 98 kids; California 20522 posts
24th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Red Bottom:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Derp:</b>" There are. However, the excuse that healthy food ... [snip!] ... I still spend little to nothing on fruits and veggies. Beans, spinach, etc. so inexpensive. Chips....chips are expensive."</blockquote>




You have to own land or live in a house with land and a nice landlord, pay the water bill or have a well, put in the physical labor to till, see, water, weed, and harvest---which may be hard if you're working 2 jobs to make ends meet.



Growing a garden isn't cheap. It's worth it. It is less than buying them in the stores for sure.

Vivialopod 2 kids; Vantaa, Finland 42775 posts
24th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting P Pickle Pants:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Red Bottom:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Derp:</b>" ... [snip!] ... 2 jobs to make ends meet. Growing a garden isn't cheap. It's worth it. It is less than buying them in the stores for sure."</blockquote>



I have a garden and i live in an apartment...

P Pickle Pants 98 kids; California 20522 posts
24th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting 4 til Gwen:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting P Pickle Pants:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Red ... [snip!] ... it. It is less than buying them in the stores for sure."</blockquote> I have a garden and i live in an apartment..."</blockquote>



Do you also have to buy vegetables and fruit to supplement?

Vivialopod 2 kids; Vantaa, Finland 42775 posts
24th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting P Pickle Pants:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting 4 til Gwen:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting P Pickle ... [snip!] ... I have a garden and i live in an apartment..."</blockquote> Do you also have to buy vegetables and fruit to supplement?"</blockquote>




Yes, because i don't care to grow more. It's just to teach my daughter about weather cycles and make my ugly porch a little cuter.



You made it sound like you need acres and acres of land and thousands of dollars to grow a garden to eat from. You don't.



And anyway that's a stupid question because i don't know anyone, even those who try to live sustainably, who grow 100% of produce they need for a varied diet. They trade at farmer co-ops or buy local.

Red Bottom 2 kids; Middelfart, Denmark 15275 posts
24th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting P Pickle Pants:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Red Bottom:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Derp:</b>" ... [snip!] ... 2 jobs to make ends meet. Growing a garden isn't cheap. It's worth it. It is less than buying them in the stores for sure."</blockquote>




You know that almost every county has a community garden if you don't have your own backyard....



Please. It is not hard to put water on a seed. Everyone works to make ends meet. It's not a pity party. If you're struggling to make ends meet, you have no choice but to choose the cheaper route correct?