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hobbit* 3 kids; New Zealand 44783 posts
25th Mar '13

From LTNZ



Note: A child under 15 years old may sit beside the driver only if the child is restrained by a child restraint or safety belt (whichever is appropriate for their age and size). However, they are always safer in a back seat than in the front.

A is Me 1 child; South Carolina 3782 posts
25th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mama*AtoZ:</b>" It must be AUS laws that are different? i just clicked the link and saw the baby and the seat. That ... [snip!] ... dangerous and people would more likely suspect someone of baby napping than helping a crying baby - what a sad place i live in!"</blockquote>




I can see it being seen as "safe" by locals; in the article an official even said it happens pretty often in their town.
I'm more worried about there being a greater chance of baby waking up and being scared, and the mother depending on passers by to hear her neqborn's cries and call her cell phone is not exactly the way a newborn should be treated. I know that is an opinion and could certainly vary from parent to parent, but if any mother is so clueless about her neqborn's emotional needs, she needs serious education.



And even worse, if that baby slid down in its seat an inch it could be in danger of suffocating. All these things done by the mother point to a serious lack of child rearing knowledge and something should have been done to address that.

hobbit* 3 kids; New Zealand 44783 posts
25th Mar '13

Where that happen is far from a "safe" area. It's careless or dumb parents with a shit "it'll be sweet" attitude.

user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
25th Mar '13

Not grocery shopping, no.



I've left my kids in the car to pay for gas or things like that. If it's going to take me longer than 5 minutes, I take them in. Abduction and car theft are unheard of here. I wouldn't do it in a bigger city.

hobbit* 3 kids; New Zealand 44783 posts
25th Mar '13

I think taking everything into consideration, yes it was dumb. But saying she should be in jail or have her baby taken off her is a bit extreme. Leaving the baby in a car isn't the smartest thing but she didn't leave him at home. The baby looks warm (even though the blanket is too high..) is in an appropriate carseat and generally looks cared for.

user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
25th Mar '13

What I don't understand is that she left the kid in the car to go grocery shopping. :?



Why?

Bettinas 2 kids; Australia 2204 posts
25th Mar '13

I could never do it. Once, I went to a birthday party for a chick I knew's son's birthday. He was 2 and his little sister was about 6 months.... We all went back to the parent's house afterward to catch up because it'd been a while since we last saw them but her kids fell asleep in the car. She had it parked in the solid brick garage on a hot summer's day (in Australia BTW so it was around 34 degrees Celsius) and when we got there I was like "oh where are the kids?" And she said asleep. If I'd known she'd left them in the garage inside the car, I would have gone in there and smashed the windows myself. When the son woke up, he was screaming and red, the younger one was limp. She was like "oh it's cool, I'll just take them in the pool."



It's a wonder we aren't friends anymore, really :roll:

Van West Auckland, NZ, New Zealand 3108 posts
status 25th Mar '13
Quoting Bettinas:" I could never do it. Once, I went to a birthday party for a chick I knew's son's birthday. He was 2 and ... [snip!] ... limp. She was like "oh it's cool, I'll just take them in the pool." It's a wonder we aren't friends anymore, really :roll:"


:shock: Far out! How long were they in there for?

CJKB+JMB=AMB 1 child; Watertown, New York 2525 posts
25th Mar '13

But the article dosent say how long the baby was there alonefor... I can't form an opinion unless I knew how long the baby was left alone for.

Bettinas 2 kids; Australia 2204 posts
25th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Blah:</b>" :shock: Far out! How long were they in there for?"</blockquote>



We would have been at their house for at least half an hour. They were there longer but we got lost :?

Loretta West TTC#2 TTC since May 2013; 1 child; Auckland, New Zealand 4630 posts
25th Mar '13
Quoting Elliot Reid:" I noticed that blanket too! Hmm..."


And I dunno about down there but it's been hot as shit up here lately. Kids have died being left in a closed up car with thick blankets on them before. I don't think she left the window open or anything. It's pretty disgusting, but I think it's the first case where the parent/caregiver hasn't been charged? There was the 7 kids under 7 in the minivan at the casino, pretty sure those parents got charged. And I remember something about toddlers in the car outside the pub? I don't get why they're not charging her and at least making her do parenting classes or something.



ETA: It was 5 kids, not 7. and it happens far too often in this country :(
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10788981

Loretta West TTC#2 TTC since May 2013; 1 child; Auckland, New Zealand 4630 posts
25th Mar '13
Quoting Elliot Reid:" Im pretty sure its a year AND 13 kgs before you can FF, but plunket recommends FF until 2 years. DD is ... [snip!] ... 1 and still rear facing. Also it is illegal to have them in the front seat, airbags or not. You can get a $150 fine for that."


Its illegal to have them in the front seat?? I didn't know that :? I've always had him in the back though lol

Dr. Elliot Reid 1 child; New Zealand 8808 posts
25th Mar '13
Quoting Carissa Biron:" But the article dosent say how long the baby was there alonefor... I can't form an opinion unless I knew how long the baby was left alone for."

I dont think the amount of time matters. She was in a supermarket, she could not see the car. Thats bad enough IMO

Dr. Elliot Reid 1 child; New Zealand 8808 posts
25th Mar '13
Quoting Lucas'Mama:" And I dunno about down there but it's been hot as shit up here lately. Kids have died being left in ... [snip!] ... 7. and it happens far too often in this country :( http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10788981"

Wow that article is disgusting! Yeah, at the very least she should have had to take parenting classes. But I am really surprised alot of people are sticking up for her! Shows the standards of NZ eh? haha

Dr. Elliot Reid 1 child; New Zealand 8808 posts
25th Mar '13
Quoting Lucas'Mama:" Its illegal to have them in the front seat?? I didn't know that :? I've always had him in the back though lol"

Yeah I got given a warning because I didnt know, oops.