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Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8554 posts
27th Mar '13
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" Depending on where you live, it may be illegal to grow your own garden. I'm not talking about growing and selling. I'm talking about growing a garden for your own consumption."


Where is it illegal to have a garden?

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
27th Mar '13

Organically grown crops aren't any better or more nutritious than conventionally grown food products. Most of the food you buy that is marketed as organic is not even certified organic- you have to check if it has a USDA Organic Seal and contains 95% or more organic ingredients. Federal law does not regulate this very well and it lands largely on the distributor as being honest about their products. Science has not proven that eating pesticide-free food is any healthier or better for you. Genetic modification is crucial as our population keeps increasing, we have more mouths to feed. GMO means larger crops, which means more food at a lower price... which in the end is all that matters right? Money! And of course, a minimum amount of starving people.

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
27th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Stfu Squirrel:</b>" Where is it illegal to have a garden?"</blockquote>



I'm sorry, I can't link. But if you just Google "Is it illegal to plant a garden", you'll get lots.

user banned 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6369 posts
27th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Dovahkiin:</b>" Organically grown crops aren't any better or more nutritious than conventionally grown food products. ... [snip!] ... at a lower price... which in the end is all that matters right? Money! And of course, a minimum amount of starving people. "</blockquote>



Thing is, people ARE NUTRITIONALLY STARVING. The nutrients are just stripped away.

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
27th Mar '13
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Dovahkiin:</b>" Organically grown crops aren't any better or ... [snip!] ... of starving people. "</blockquote> Thing is, people ARE NUTRITIONALLY STARVING. The nutrients are just stripped away."


Well it's not because a GMO tomato isn't nutritious. It's because the majority of America chooses to eat unhealthy.

Hathor + A Due December 23 (girl); 16 kids; Spring, Texas 12834 posts
27th Mar '13
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Stfu Squirrel:</b>" Where is it illegal to have a garden?"</blockquote> ... [snip!] ... I'm sorry, I can't link. But if you just Google "Is it illegal to plant a garden", you'll get lots."

In the front yard..because people b***h about it. It is illegal here to grow in the front yard.

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
27th Mar '13
Quoting Captain Lauren + ?:" In the front yard..because people b***h about it. It is illegal here to grow in the front yard. "


Most city ordinances will have that. Do whatever you want with your backyard though.

Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8554 posts
27th Mar '13
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Stfu Squirrel:</b>" Where is it illegal to have a garden?"</blockquote> ... [snip!] ... I'm sorry, I can't link. But if you just Google "Is it illegal to plant a garden", you'll get lots."


yeah, not really finding anything like that.
I'm finding info about how it's not legal to have farm animals in your yard in a lot of places...ok, I can get behind that. There's something about not being allowed to plant fruits and vegetables at certain condos or co-ops, but that containers are ok...



I'm not saying you're wrong, it just seems like if it were actually illegal to grow your own vegetables in that many places, it would be easy to find the info.

Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8554 posts
28th Mar '13
A&Ms Mommy 2 kids; North Carolina 10863 posts
28th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Stfu Squirrel:</b>" What are the environmental concerns of raising chickens? There was a hearing tonight, I think, where ... [snip!] ... and some people are trying to change that. I don't know anything about that stuff though, or the anti-chicken arguments."</blockquote>




Not much really as long as you have a coop. Free range they eat off the land so you have to be careful what you put on your grass. in the winter you supplement with some feed. This is what ive been told. Im still doing research as they will be inside under heatlamps for awhile. We live outside of city limits so as of right now we can do as we please which is awesome.

Freespirit Due August 29; 1 child; 1 angel baby; Michigan 3415 posts
28th Mar '13
Quoting Dovahkiin:" Organically grown crops aren't any better or more nutritious than conventionally grown food products. ... [snip!] ... at a lower price... which in the end is all that matters right? Money! And of course, a minimum amount of starving people. "


"At this point in time, the health risks of consuming genetically altered foods have not been clearly identified, since few studies have been conducted to evaluate impact of these foods on human health. However, many scientists have speculated that it is likely that these foods will trigger allergic reactions in some people, create new toxins that produce disease, and lead to antibiotic resistance and a subsequent resurgence of infectious disease. The impact on the environment may be even more devastating. Many farmers are concerned that it will be impossible to prevent genetically engineered crops from "polluting" organic farms, as the wind and bees will naturally carry pollen from the genetically engineered crops to nearby organic farms. In addition, farmers and environmentalists fear that foods that are genetically engineered to be resistant to herbicides, such as Roundup Ready soybeans, will result in heavier herbicide use, further polluting the groundwater, lakes and rivers. Heavy use of herbicides may also encourage the development of "superweeds" that are resistant to herbicides, which could threaten crops throughout the country. The results of a 1999 study conducted by researchers at Cornell University suggest that genetically engineered crops also endanger wildlife, specifically the Monarch butterfly. These researchers found that nearly half of the Monarch caterpillars that ate milkweed leaves dusted with pollen from genetically engineered corn died within four days. A study conducted one year later at Iowa State University found that plants that neighbor farms of genetically engineered corn are dusted with enough corn pollen to kill Monarch caterpillars. "



I understand this is just a speculation, but none of this concerns you? Rise is allergies, health issues, impact on our wildlife, "superweeds", antibiotic resistance. Why has there been no study done on the impact of GMO foods? That is what really concerns me the most. If so many people are concerned, why not do a study on the impact of GMO foods and peoples health. How come we are one of the only countries to not require labeling?

Destinite 1 child; 2 angel babies; Paradise, FL, United States 31297 posts
28th Mar '13

Great! GMOs are so wonderful for our bodies. They best be labeling ALL things GMO.
I know you can determine if produce is a GMO based on the #
The Labeling System
The codes are applied not only to fruit, but also to vegetables, herbs, and nuts, though labels are normally stuck only on fruit. They consist of four or five numbers. The system is quite simple. Fruit is divided into three classes: conventional, organic, and genetically modified.



All four-digit coded fruit is conventionally raised. So, if you don't see five digits, then it's safe to assume that the fruit is contaminated with pesticides and petroleum-based fertilizers, and is grown in depleted soils.



Five digit codes are simply the four digits with a single number added to the front: 8 or 9.



If the first of five numbers is 9, then it has been grown to the standards defined by the National Organic Standards Board. This is obviously preferable to conventionally-grown fruit.



If the first of five numbers is 8, the fruit is genetically modified. It means that it has been grown conventionally with poisons in depleted soil, from frankenseeds.



For example, let's take a simple Valencia orange. Its code is 4014. 84014 is the code of a small genetically modified Valencia orange. 94014 is the code of a small organic Valencia orange.



* 4 digits: The fruit likely comes with a burden of poisons and was grown in depleted soil.



* 5 digits, first is 8: This fruit is genetically modified, a GMO. It contains genes that were not put there by nature.



* 5 digits, first is 9: This fruit has been grown to an organic standard. Although the standard is not as strict as some produced by the most serious organic farmers, it is certainly superior to conventionally-grown or GMO fruit.




Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/023711.html#ixzz2Or13dLjW

Mama Lizzy :] 1 child; Texas 5575 posts
28th Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Freespirit:</b>" "At this point in time, the health risks of consuming genetically altered foods have not been clearly ... [snip!] ... do a study on the impact of GMO foods and peoples health. How come we are one of the only countries to not require labeling?"</blockquote>




This really makes me scared for the future generations.




Can I have the link to this?

blah 17 kids; Alabama 7639 posts
29th Mar '13

Well played Obama, well played. What do you expect from.someone who hires a former exec of monsanto to the deputy commissioner of the FDA. Yea we need to burn that shit like Hungary. I signed a petition. Everyone should. I was pissed when prop 37 failed due to gross propaganda and misinformation and I'm pissed over this too...not surprised though.

Bangtail 50 kids; Katy, Texas 7752 posts
2nd Apr '13

My favorite part is all of the senators saying that it's not their fault because they didn't know that "language" was in there, like that actually makes it better. Who know Pelosi's stance of passing in order to know what is in it would become the typical protocol for lawmakers.



But, hey, good job. They managed to get us distracted enough to not even really care.