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TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22981 posts
2nd Apr '13

I'm pro GMO.
I'm also against the racket behind the "certified organic" label. It's ridiculous.

Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8554 posts
2nd Apr '13
Quoting TheNuge:" I'm pro GMO. I'm also against the racket behind the "certified organic" label. It's ridiculous."


Just wondering what your reasons are for being pro-GMO.
I see a lot of reasons why it's the direction we've gone in, but I hear so much about how it's all poison and we're all going to die of cancer or have severely SN needs because of it...and maybe somebody knows how true that is, but I sure don't. It's an alternative to starving, and if the food supply were totally unregulated, it would be a real mess. I can't say GMOs sound great to me though.



But since you're actually saying you're PRO-GMO, I'm interested in your take on it.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22981 posts
2nd Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Stfu Squirrel:</b>" Just wondering what your reasons are for being pro-GMO. I see a lot of reasons why it's the direction ... [snip!] ... can't say GMOs sound great to me though. But since you're actually saying you're PRO-GMO, I'm interested in your take on it."</blockquote>




I'm pro GMO as I like getting quality foods that aren't seasonal. I like the fact that we could easily feed the entire world in we could get rid of corruption in their "governments."
I like needing less fertilizer and pesticide because of GMO.



The increase in SN and other conditions is a HUGE concern but it could be anything including the fact that everything is packaged in plastic and that we are surrounded by plastic.

Bangtail 50 kids; Katy, Texas 7752 posts
2nd Apr '13
Quoting TheNuge:" I'm pro GMO. I'm also against the racket behind the "certified organic" label. It's ridiculous."


I'm not pro or anti, really. I just think it's scary the way we put stuff on the market and then worry about whether or not it's actually ok to ingest.



My main point in all of this is that the left always says the right is anti-health and anti-environment and not a damn one of them will say anything about this. If it had been introduced by a republican, the backlash would be astronomical. The hypocrisy is amazing. They can always explain how what Obama is doing is for the greater good, even if it's against all of their ideals.

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
2nd Apr '13
Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Stfu Squirrel:</b>" Just wondering what your reasons are for ... [snip!] ... but it could be anything including the fact that everything is packaged in plastic and that we are surrounded by plastic."


For once I agree with you.

Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8554 posts
2nd Apr '13
Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Stfu Squirrel:</b>" Just wondering what your reasons are for ... [snip!] ... but it could be anything including the fact that everything is packaged in plastic and that we are surrounded by plastic."


I have some doubts about the quality of the food though. Most of the produce from any of the regular grocery stores around here looks beautiful but has a weird texture and almost no flavor. Freaks me out a little.



I have such conflicting feelings about the whole thing. I hate the idea that all our lawmakers are so bossed around by corporations, but I see the value in the corporations and I sort of understand how we've gotten where we are. I just wish it didn't have to be like that. In my perfect world, we assign more appropriate values to products and services, and we aren't all so insane about having what we demand, when we demand it. Real life just seems so uncivilized.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22981 posts
2nd Apr '13
Quoting Bangtail:" I'm not pro or anti, really. I just think it's scary the way we put stuff on the market and then worry ... [snip!] ... is amazing. They can always explain how what Obama is doing is for the greater good, even if it's against all of their ideals."


100% agree about there being a double standard.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22981 posts
2nd Apr '13
Quoting Stfu Squirrel:" I have some doubts about the quality of the food though. Most of the produce from any of the regular ... [snip!] ... and services, and we aren't all so insane about having what we demand, when we demand it. Real life just seems so uncivilized."


oh yes. some food isn't so great.
I LOVE being able to get a fresh strawberry in Feb but the are white on the inside, have little fragrance and need to be cored. But, I'm glad I can buy them. I prefer the small, sweet ones with the red interior flesh. Mmmm just had some on vacation in florida.



I've always been a total snob about corn. I didn't know what I was missing until I tried some this winter. It was AWESOME and I assume had some GMO. maybe, maybe not.... but keep it coming! I make kick-ass corn and poblano salad!



TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22981 posts
2nd Apr '13
Quoting Stfu Squirrel:" I have some doubts about the quality of the food though. Most of the produce from any of the regular ... [snip!] ... and services, and we aren't all so insane about having what we demand, when we demand it. Real life just seems so uncivilized."


oh yes. some food isn't so great.
I LOVE being able to get a fresh strawberry in Feb but the are white on the inside, have little fragrance and need to be cored. But, I'm glad I can buy them. I prefer the small, sweet ones with the red interior flesh. Mmmm just had some on vacation in florida.



I've always been a total snob about corn. I didn't know what I was missing until I tried some this winter. It was AWESOME and I assume had some GMO. maybe, maybe not.... but keep it coming! I make kick-ass corn and poblano salad!



Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8554 posts
2nd Apr '13
Quoting TheNuge:" oh yes. some food isn't so great. I LOVE being able to get a fresh strawberry in Feb but the are white ... [snip!] ... was AWESOME and I assume had some GMO. maybe, maybe not.... but keep it coming! I make kick-ass corn and poblano salad! "


Strawberries, yes!
You and I are pretty close in age, I think. When I was really young (late 70's, early 80's), I had my own strawberry patch in the back yard. They grew tiny, and soooo sweet. They had so much flavor. We'd go strawberry picking too, and it was just heavenly. Dh went to Nova Scotia several years ago and picked what he describes as the best blueberries on the face of the earth. They were tiny, and so full of flavor.



We just can't get that, and it's really sad.



I'm going to take dd strawberry picking this summer, as there are plenty of farms within an hour or so, but I don't know what to expect. Even the farmers market strawberries aren't as good as it seems like they should be. We'll see I guess. I'd pay $10 for a single "real" strawberry right now.



We do get amazing peaches at the farmers market in summertime though. Just as good as the ones we bought off the back of a pickup truck down south in the late 80's. Sure hope that never changes.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22981 posts
2nd Apr '13
Quoting Stfu Squirrel:" Strawberries, yes! You and I are pretty close in age, I think. When I was really young (late 70's, early ... [snip!] ... Just as good as the ones we bought off the back of a pickup truck down south in the late 80's. Sure hope that never changes."


Relative to BG, I'm older than dirt :-)
I'm 47! yes, a product of the 70s and 80s. We didn't have half of the variety that we have now. I never had avocados or jicama growing up. The food supply is stringer now. yes, other improvements in packaging and transportation have helped to.
If you are truly in the DC area, we have similar local farming. The local farms are amazing from june thru early October. We do lots of "u-pick" as its fun and yummy.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22981 posts
2nd Apr '13
Quoting Dovahkiin:" For once I agree with you. "


lol.
there is a first for everything!

Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8554 posts
2nd Apr '13
Quoting TheNuge:" Relative to BG, I'm older than dirt :-) I'm 47! yes, a product of the 70s and 80s. We didn't have half ... [snip!] ... similar local farming. The local farms are amazing from june thru early October. We do lots of "u-pick" as its fun and yummy."


Oh, I thought you were closer to 40. Still though, I'm 36 so I feel the same way on here.



And yeah, I'm in the DC area. Northern VA actually, so there's tons of farmland to the west, southwest, and over in MD. And up in PA. All around, really.

Nymphadora 98 kids; Arizona 3120 posts
3rd Apr '13
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" It's BULL. It's dangerous. However, I expect nothing less from this jackass."


Imagine that...we agree.



That being said, I understand why we use GM foods (feed the hungry on the cheap). And this bill is an answer to what the masses have been demanding (cheaper grocery bills). Still disgusting though.

Bangtail 50 kids; Katy, Texas 7752 posts
3rd Apr '13
Quoting Nymphadora:" Imagine that...we agree. That being said, I understand why we use GM foods (feed the hungry on the ... [snip!] ... the cheap). And this bill is an answer to what the masses have been demanding (cheaper grocery bills). Still disgusting though."


If the cost of fuel continues to increase, the cost of groceries will not go down in certain areas. So, we can pump as much food as we want into the stores, but unless the farms are right down the road, there won't be much of a difference in cost. Everything in this country is on the back of a truck at one point or another, and if it's food that has to be cooled, the cost will definitely not change because reefer trucks use more fuel. That's why stores like Wal-Mart can afford to keep their prices a bit lower than other stores; the majority of their goods are carried by their own fleet.