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Asking for a raise? kthx. Due January 13 (girl); Cleves, Ohio 66650 posts
31st Mar '13

So... after a co-worker showed me how much her raise was, I'm pissed. Not at her, but at the fact that I'm only making 20 cents more than her... I've been there longer, I'm her manager, and have a LOT more responsibility than she does. I mean -- I have a goddamn key to the store and pass codes/access to the safe. HELLER.



I told my boss that I'm going to the supervisor and asking for a raise. I'm not bringing up that my co-worker showed me her pay stub. Because that won't end well for either of us. Also, the other assistant is making $2.00 more than I am. But how do I bring up that I deserve more pay? My manager agrees that I'm a better assistant than the other one (as does pretty much everyone in the store... so why she's making as much as she is, I'll never understand). I can't bring up ANY of that, though... because we're not supposed to discuss pay.



I plan on telling him I deserve it because of blah blah and blah. But what happens if he's like... well nobody else is making more than you. Or just tries to pull the 'your pay rate is equivalent to your title'. Because I know that's not true... but I can't say anything about it -- due to the 'no speaking about pay' rule.



My boss said she'd back me up if he went to her asking how she felt about me getting a raise. I just... don't know how to approach it. He can be intimidating. And I'm fragile... I hyperventilate with the slightest confrontation.

SMBC**TTC#3 TTC since Jun 2013; 2 kids; California 17897 posts
31st Mar '13
Quoting kthx.:" So... after a co-worker showed me how much her raise was, I'm pissed. Not at her, but at the fact that ... [snip!] ... don't know how to approach it. He can be intimidating. And I'm fragile... I hyperventilate with the slightest confrontation."



This is probably what happened. She was hired at a higher pay than you, and MOST companies can only give x-amount of money per raise. Make CERTAIN you do not even inuendo that you know your co-workers' pay. If anything, you could say "hey, I got this other job offer, but I really want to stay here. I would like x-amount of money" OR you can ask for a performance review, and off of that, figure out how much the company is entitled to pay you. Length of service almost never means a certain amount of pay is granted.

A&J. ♥ 1 child; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 5613 posts
31st Mar '13

I need to do the same thing. I've been with my company for about a year. I'm practically office manager. More responsibility than anyone else in the office and people under me are getting paid more, which I just found out yesterday. I'm so annoyed

SMBC**TTC#3 TTC since Jun 2013; 2 kids; California 17897 posts
31st Mar '13
Quoting A&J. ♥:" I need to do the same thing. I've been with my company for about a year. I'm practically office manager. ... [snip!] ... than anyone else in the office and people under me are getting paid more, which I just found out yesterday. I'm so annoyed"


Then you need to ask for a promotion, not a raise. That's where the money comes into play...

A&J. ♥ 1 child; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 5613 posts
31st Mar '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Is that still my name?:</b>" Then you need to ask for a promotion, not a raise. That's where the money comes into play... "</blockquote>




There really are no promotions unless you are being promoted to store manager. I could switch departments and work strictly off commission (I'd never want to do that)



They don't have real office managers. They just dump 85% of the work load on one person (me) because they know the most. Meanwhile my coworkers who are technically in the same position as I am, do homework, take personal calls, face time on their iPhones, etc. it's so frustrating

SMBC**TTC#3 TTC since Jun 2013; 2 kids; California 17897 posts
31st Mar '13
Quoting A&J. ♥:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Is that still my name?:</b>" Then you need to ask for a promotion, ... [snip!] ... in the same position as I am, do homework, take personal calls, face time on their iPhones, etc. it's so frustrating"


Then ask for the store manager position. Lol I did! Just go in there with a list of things you do, ask for a performance review, and let them know what they'll be missing when you do find a higher paying job.

kthx. Due January 13 (girl); Cleves, Ohio 66650 posts
31st Mar '13
Quoting Is that still my name?:" This is probably what happened. She was hired at a higher pay than you, and MOST companies can only ... [snip!] ... out how much the company is entitled to pay you. Length of service almost never means a certain amount of pay is granted."


She was hired in 20 cents less than me.




Here's the breakdown:



She was hired at $7.80. Got taken up to $8 because that was the new set minimum for clerks. Then taken to $8.25 because you get a quarter raise after so many months. Then another 50 cent raise when she got promoted to shift leader, which took her to $8.75.



I was hired at $8 due to experience. Then taken to $8.25 because I met my monthly thing. Then... this is where I call bullshit. When I was promoted to shift leader, I only got a 20 cent raise... compared to her 50 cent raise. I've since been promoted AGAIN, and still only make $8.95.



I'm pissed because my raise to shift leader was 20 cents... while hers was 50 cents. I've been there for about 3 months more than her.

kthx. Due January 13 (girl); Cleves, Ohio 66650 posts
31st Mar '13
Quoting A&J. ♥:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Is that still my name?:</b>" Then you need to ask for a promotion, ... [snip!] ... in the same position as I am, do homework, take personal calls, face time on their iPhones, etc. it's so frustrating"

This is pretty much me as well.



I don't want to be store manager... because you're then put on salary, and only get paid for 40 hours, but are expected to work 50+ a week. Also if any little thing happened... your bonus is docked. If an employee gets overtime, the store manager's bonus gets docked for that amount of OT. It's just not worth it in the long run. Too much work for too little of money.



I told my manager.... if I don't get a raise, I'll be taking a demotion. I'd much rather make $8.75, and have no responsibility, nor be held accountable for anything. Than to be making $8.95... and be one of the biggest roles in keeping the store running. I'll gladly take that 20 cent dock.

Cordelia's Mom 33 kids; Bakersfield, California 3685 posts
31st Mar '13

When I was working in fast food I was making the most (besides the very long term employees, like 10+ years). My job was probably one of the easier ones and I was making like 20-50 cents more than some people and I'm pretty sure it was just because I asked for it when I got hired. Idk what my point is. I guess that minimum wage jobs are lame. Good luck though. I would probably say I will take a demotion also.

SMBC**TTC#3 TTC since Jun 2013; 2 kids; California 17897 posts
31st Mar '13
Quoting kthx.:" This is pretty much me as well. I don't want to be store manager... because you're then put on salary, ... [snip!] ... Than to be making $8.95... and be one of the biggest roles in keeping the store running. I'll gladly take that 20 cent dock."


That's where people commonly mess up. If you're not willing to move forward, then why should the company move you forward or pay you more when it doesn't benefit them... or you for that matter. A store manager gets paid what they do, but they can move beyond that. They are given the opportunity to bonus as well. I do get where you are coming from, but in my recent line of work, people lost pay because they wanted to x-amount of work and kept asking for a raise without promise that they will prosper themselves or the company. That's why I say to bring in documentation that you qualify for more, not just deserve more. Your boss has bosses they have to answer to as well. It's not like they can just type in a code and instantly pay you $2 more.

kthx. Due January 13 (girl); Cleves, Ohio 66650 posts
31st Mar '13
Quoting Is that still my name?:" That's where people commonly mess up. If you're not willing to move forward, then why should the company ... [snip!] ... Your boss has bosses they have to answer to as well. It's not like they can just type in a code and instantly pay you $2 more."


Why would I have any want to move forward? The most they'd give me is a 50 cent raise.. making it $9.45 an hour. There's one more promotion before store manager (which is first assistant... there's only one of those per store, and they're basically second store manager if the first isn't around). WHY would I want to have that responsibility for so little money? If they had more incentive... I'd go for it. But, they don't.




My manager sees that I deserve/qualify for more. She said so herself. I told her if I didn't get a raise, I'll leave. She doesn't want that. Just kind of background.... there are two assistant managers. Me being one of them. The other has been there for about 4 years. She was hired in MAXED OUT at $10.50 an hour. She had NO prior retail experience. The store manager is given 2 days to train the assistant manager on the safe, paperwork, ordering, DAX, etc. We've had 5 manager since she was hired... and they gave up on her after a week. They gave up, and said they're just sticking her on night shift (the easy shift) so that she didn't have to do paperwork/safe/ordering in the morning since she wasn't getting it. She's been there FOUR years and STILL doesn't get it. I was taught in 2 days... and I do MORE than she does. But she was still hired in MAXED out. While I make almost $2 less than she does. And I have experience.



I obviously can't bring that up... because that's petty. But can you understand my frustration with it? Someone LESS qualified, is making MORE. That's where my irritation is.

user banned Due November 26; 1 child; Parkersburg, West Virginia 9548 posts
31st Mar '13

the squeeky wheel gets the most oil if you get what i mean.

SMBC**TTC#3 TTC since Jun 2013; 2 kids; California 17897 posts
4th Apr '13
Quoting kthx.:" Why would I have any want to move forward? The most they'd give me is a 50 cent raise.. making it $9.45 ... [snip!] ... petty. But can you understand my frustration with it? Someone LESS qualified, is making MORE. That's where my irritation is."


That sounds like a company you just flat need out of. My company is like that. It drives me insane. However, I proved what I'm worth and there was no excuse they could find to not give me what I wanted. It was pure luck. They want to save money on labor. that's the easiest way, and those IDIOTS out there who think $1.00 an hour is too much for someone who has potential or earns the comapny 100 times that amount, well, they are just idiots in the wrong position and you can't really work around them, unless you happen to come across a perfect situation like I did.

SMBC**TTC#3 TTC since Jun 2013; 2 kids; California 17897 posts
4th Apr '13
Quoting I love Kenzi:" the squeeky wheel gets the most oil if you get what i mean. "


In this day and age, squeeky wheels get fired.

Cordelia's Mom 33 kids; Bakersfield, California 3685 posts
4th Apr '13
Quoting Is that still my name?:" In this day and age, squeeky wheels get fired."


I definitely did. I didn't get oil. Lol