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La~La 4 kids; Houston, Texas 22034 posts
4th Apr '13
Quoting Just Ames:" Because America is a much bigger place than Ireland :lol:"


point is, if she wants to keep the baby and not be even more ostracized than she already is, then she needs to leave. there is help out there if she really wants it.

Sara-D Due November 30; Nakanoto, Japan 4 posts
4th Apr '13

* I wrote to a womens rights humanitarian group a year ago and I got no reply. It was when I was locked up in my room against my will for 4 months.
I managed to run away from my family and start over in the city.



* I cannot move to Egypt or Morroco with all the Islam brotherhood mess.
* I forgot to mention. It's illegal outside marriage to, have kids, adopt, or even have abortion. So basically I cannot have the baby nor abort it according to the law !
* I have an abortion pill I ordered online. I just couldn't take it.
* I thought of leaving the country. But where to? I have saved some money and I can buy a plane ticket and leave. Yet then what ?
No job. No support. Me and my baby in a strange country with no money and with a temporary visa !
* I read about a Saudi women from the royal family whom got an asylum in UK.
But not sure what's the process. I even thought if talking to the Sweden ambassador. I heard Sweden accept cases like me.
But I'm scared. What if I reached to him and he reported me to the authorities !
* I have a fever. Forgive the spelling mistakes and unorganized thoughts.
* reading your replies made me feel better. You are the first to know I'm going to be a mom :)




Love.
Sara



P.S.
I will change my location to Jaban though I'm not from there. I'm not paranoid :). They hunt Internet bloggers and twitter users and I don't want to be hunted :)

.Enigma. clusterfuck, LA, Sri Lanka 107102 posts
4th Apr '13
Quoting Sara-D:" * I wrote to a womens rights humanitarian group a year ago and I got no reply. It was when I was locked ... [snip!] ... though I'm not from there. I'm not paranoid :). They hunt Internet bloggers and twitter users and I don't want to be hunted :)"


you have a fever?
do you know what you have?

I understand your concern about reaching out for help, but honestly, what other choice do you have in this position?

Simply, Mom 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Upland, 11712 posts
4th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Sara-D:</b>" * I wrote to a womens rights humanitarian group a year ago and I got no reply. It was when I was locked ... [snip!] ... though I'm not from there. I'm not paranoid :). They hunt Internet bloggers and twitter users and I don't want to be hunted :)"</blockquote>



I understand you being scared but at this point it is your best bet to reach out for help.

MommyToWesley 1 child; Delaware 3847 posts
4th Apr '13
Quoting Sara-D:" * I wrote to a womens rights humanitarian group a year ago and I got no reply. It was when I was locked ... [snip!] ... though I'm not from there. I'm not paranoid :). They hunt Internet bloggers and twitter users and I don't want to be hunted :)"


If/when you leave, it's true that you will have no job and no support. But it will be better than what you have there. Think about it. If you were to have the baby where you are now, you will not only have no job and no support, but you also will not have your baby, because you will be in jail.

La~La 4 kids; Houston, Texas 22034 posts
4th Apr '13
Quoting MommyToWesley:" If/when you leave, it's true that you will have no job and no support. But it will be better than what ... [snip!] ... you are now, you will not only have no job and no support, but you also will not have your baby, because you will be in jail."


they have jails over there for women with children....because if the mother is disgraced then so are the children, especially the daughters

yo moyo 1 child; Ishim, Russian Federation 1335 posts
4th Apr '13
Quoting Sara-D:" * I wrote to a womens rights humanitarian group a year ago and I got no reply. It was when I was locked ... [snip!] ... though I'm not from there. I'm not paranoid :). They hunt Internet bloggers and twitter users and I don't want to be hunted :)"


Don't use the Brotherhood as an excuse to not move to Egypt or Morocco. And you don't need to be legal to live there, most foreigners arent'. I just came back from there less than a month ago and I guarantee you life there has not changed in the least. Though I imagine that you know that unlike all the other posters here.... I'm sure you'd rather move somewhere nice and have your needs met by a charity organization.
If you can manage, have some savings to last you for 6 months or so. And get a job right away when you move. Everyone can find a job who wants one, and with your good English it is surely possible. That's what every immigrant does when they immigrate. It's not easy, but you make it sound like you don't have options.

Sara-D Due November 30; Nakanoto, Japan 4 posts
4th Apr '13

It's a bad sore throte. No worries I guess. Plenty of hot drinks.



When my period got late, he asked me to do a test. He said " I had a dream last night that you are pregnant !!!! ".
I did one and it came negative. Then after 2 other days I did another test and it came positive. Poor quality test vs. clear blue!
2 more tests and all positive.
after I made my first test I told him " even if it came positive, there is no way I'm killing my baby".
He replied: but it doesn't have a soul yet. Not before the third month !



I don't know what he ment by " it doesn't have a soul yet ".
But soul is his argument ! I thought of going to a private clinic outside the city and take him with me when I'm on my 9th week. Maybe do a 3D scan and let him see our baby and hear his heart beat. Maybe then, he will save us !
The thing is : I don't wanna leave him and leave the country. Although its a messed up country but its home. And he made me stronger and happier. He made a human being out of that raped-10-year-old.



Someone replied : she can leave and get help out there if SHE WANTS TO.
I felt as if you are suggesting I don't want help and as if this is only a big show I'm making.
I do want help- that kind of help that gives me the right to have my baby, stay in my home, and never go to jail for the crime of "loving" !
It seems impossible now. The only one who can save me is him. Yet if he chooses to abandon me and the baby, I will leave the country if I could.



I read the heart beat of a fetus can be heard at 7th week?
I thought of going on my 9th week to do a scan "as the fetus looks more human at that time and he might just fall in love with him ?"
I'm desperate. My final chance to get it all. If I survived it, I will let you know




Thank u all. You really made me feel better.
Love
Sara

user banned Due November 7 (boy); 1 child; Dayton, Ohio 26853 posts
4th Apr '13
Quoting Sara-D:" * I wrote to a womens rights humanitarian group a year ago and I got no reply. It was when I was locked ... [snip!] ... though I'm not from there. I'm not paranoid :). They hunt Internet bloggers and twitter users and I don't want to be hunted :)"


Okay I don't want to be the a*****e who says it. But if you really do not believe you will be able to get out of the country and to a safe place are you prepared to bring a child into the world you live in? You have a limited time to make that decision.

.Enigma. clusterfuck, LA, Sri Lanka 107102 posts
4th Apr '13
Quoting Sara-D:" It's a bad sore throte. No worries I guess. Plenty of hot drinks. When my period got late, he asked ... [snip!] ... My final chance to get it all. If I survived it, I will let you know Thank u all. You really made me feel better. Love Sara"

If it is illegal to abort or marry, what are you hoping he can do to "save you"

yo moyo 1 child; Ishim, Russian Federation 1335 posts
4th Apr '13
Quoting Sara-D:" It's a bad sore throte. No worries I guess. Plenty of hot drinks. When my period got late, he asked ... [snip!] ... My final chance to get it all. If I survived it, I will let you know Thank u all. You really made me feel better. Love Sara"


I do want help- that kind of help that gives me the right to have my baby, stay in my home, and never go to jail for the crime of "loving" !
Well, nobody on here is a magician. You probably know that if you were born in a village you'd be stoned to death, not just go to jail, so you're lucky from that point of view.
I think the solution I offered is the only one that stands a fair chance of success.
You got pregnant knowing the situation you'd be faced with. You can continue to hope you bf takes pity on you and changes his mind or not, that's your choice, but if you want to take your life in your own hands you know what you have to do. But I hope he does for your sake though!

Sara-D Due November 30; Nakanoto, Japan 4 posts
4th Apr '13

It's legal to marry. Yet he has to make that choice.
If he says no, I will leave.



I'm not using the brotherhood as an excuse.
This is just an example:
http://m.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/mar/18/muslim-brotherhood-rejects-egyptian-womens-rights



Let me put it like this:
If you were a victim to Islamists for your whole life, would you then choose willingly to move to Saudi Arabia or Egypt where there is Islamic violence against women just because they don't have p***s?! I guess not.
I'm not looking for charity's help. You are mistaken.
I have never asked for money, food, or shelter not even when I had none for days.
I'm not against any opinion here. On the contrary.
I seek for opinions as long you don't judge !
I'm confused. No organized thought. No clear plan. I can't see what future hides for me nor where I will be next month. That's why I posted here I guess. I don't know.
If you think I don't deserve love, I promise you I don't deserve hate neither.




Peace.
Sara

yo moyo 1 child; Ishim, Russian Federation 1335 posts
4th Apr '13
Quoting Sara-D:" It's legal to marry. Yet he has to make that choice. If he says no, I will leave. I'm not using the ... [snip!] ... here I guess. I don't know. If you think I don't deserve love, I promise you I don't deserve hate neither. Peace. Sara"


You don't really need to post articles from UK newspapers, I came back from Egypt less than a month ago after living there for a long time.
My point is, nobody will harass you there and you could have a normal life, go to work, live, etc. I'm a single mom and I've done it, so....
Didn't he already say no though? So right now you're just waiting for him to change his mind?

Sofie+#2 Due March 10; TTC since Jun 2014; 1 child; Sheffield, So, United Kingdom 7383 posts
4th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Sara-D:</b>" * I wrote to a womens rights humanitarian group a year ago and I got no reply. It was when I was locked ... [snip!] ... though I'm not from there. I'm not paranoid :). They hunt Internet bloggers and twitter users and I don't want to be hunted :)"</blockquote>




Do that. Write to embassies, they will help you. The UK will help you. Asylum seekers can get council houses, benefits, jobs and healthcare here.

Simply, Mom 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Upland, 11712 posts
4th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting momento mori:</b>" You don't really need to post articles from UK newspapers, I came back from Egypt less than a month ... [snip!] ... mom and I've done it, so.... Didn't he already say no though? So right now you're just waiting for him to change his mind? "</blockquote>




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op sounds no offense like a bunch of excuses to not take our suggestions. I highly doubt he will choose to save u when he already told you his decision. I am just being honest. You need to leave before you start to show so I sincerely hope you choose Egyot like the others suggested