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user banned 2 kids; Iowa 7762 posts
4th Apr '13
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Desert x Rose:</b>" So are you saying that man is without ... [snip!] ... is exactly why I think that the Bible is believable to me. Imperfect men, assigned to write a perfect book. It's genius."


Yet the bible was later edited.

I guess God must have hired a pretty awesome editor.

~*Julie Blue Eyes*~ 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6102 posts
4th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Desert x Rose:</b>" Yet the bible was later edited. I guess God must have hired a pretty awesome editor."</blockquote>



Your sarcasm is off putting.



I do not wish to debate the validity of the Bible. I believe it, completely. You will not change my mind.



I once thought the same as you. I'm a believer now.

user banned 3 kids; Los Angeles, California 54034 posts
5th Apr '13

Yeah, I think they are declining in number somewhat, and as someone else mentioned, I think non-believers are coming out of the closet more freely as well. It's much more acceptable to be atheist/agnostic/whatever else than it once was. In certain parts of the country, many people are still afraid to "come out", so, I think the number of non-christians is actually higher than anything we see reported.



It seems the crazy extremists push would-be christians away with their off the wall nonsense, as well. I've never been even close to believing any of it myself, but if I were someone who was on the fence about it, seeing some of these annoying, puritan, the-end-is-nigh-cause -of-homos Westboro types would definitely not make me want to join them.

~*Julie Blue Eyes*~ 1 child; Nunya, CA, United States 6102 posts
5th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Dr. Paradigm Shift:</b>" Yeah, I think they are declining in number somewhat, and as someone else mentioned, I think non-believers ... [snip!] ... of these annoying, puritan, the-end-is-nigh-cause -of-homos Westboro types would definitely not make me want to join them. "</blockquote>



Your first paragraph rings true. I think it's right on the money

Lucid Dreamer Florida 3817 posts
5th Apr '13

I think more people are being open to the possibility that there is much more out their to explore than one religion. I don't believe for a second that it is God's intention that everyone be Christians. Also many more people are being open to the concept of reincarnation.

racey gamer Due September 20; Goodyear, Arizona 11 posts
5th Apr '13

After much study on the history of all religion, I myself (coming from a Christian background) no longer affiliate myself with anything man made. A few hundred years ago, you were practically banished from society if you denounced your faith or accept alien life in the universe or believe in reincarnation.



My choice in lack of faith sprouts from the torment man has given man on regards of who has better faith or whose God has the biggest army and weaponry. Religion in history is a dirty dirty b******e that will never wipe away clean. But that's just my opinion. :)

Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8535 posts
5th Apr '13
Quoting racey gamer:" After much study on the history of all religion, I myself (coming from a Christian background) no longer ... [snip!] ... and weaponry. Religion in history is a dirty dirty b******e that will never wipe away clean. But that's just my opinion. :)"


depends on the society.
I don't think it's fair to denounce "everything manmade," necessarily, if you're basing all your ideas on European history.



I mean, you use a computer, right?

racey gamer Due September 20; Goodyear, Arizona 11 posts
5th Apr '13
Quoting Stfu Squirrel:" depends on the society. I don't think it's fair to denounce "everything manmade," necessarily, if you're basing all your ideas on European history. I mean, you use a computer, right?"


In regards to religion. Christianity is based out of Europe. Our ancestry is European. Every society where a deity (or more, have you) is served, death and poverty has always followed.

Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8535 posts
5th Apr '13
Quoting racey gamer:" In regards to religion. Christianity is based out of Europe. Our ancestry is European. Every society where a deity (or more, have you) is served, death and poverty has always followed."


Death and poverty have been part of every society, and they would be whether there was religion or not.



And please explain what you mean about Christianity being based out of Europe. Whose ancestry is European?

Bangtail 50 kids; Katy, Texas 7721 posts
5th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting racey gamer:</b>" After much study on the history of all religion, I myself (coming from a Christian background) no longer ... [snip!] ... and weaponry. Religion in history is a dirty dirty b******e that will never wipe away clean. But that's just my opinion. :)"</blockquote>



"Religious" people are the dirty buttholes, not religion itself. Religion is a beautiful thing when practiced properly. Unfortunately, it's been too easy to use religion as a means to gain power and wealth. You cannot blame a thing for what people do with it.

racey gamer Due September 20; Goodyear, Arizona 11 posts
5th Apr '13
Quoting Stfu Squirrel:" Death and poverty have been part of every society, and they would be whether there was religion or not. ... [snip!] ... religion or not. And please explain what you mean about Christianity being based out of Europe. Whose ancestry is European?"


Catholicism was the OLDEST form of Christianity. (as much as Christians hate admitting it, historically, it is a fact) Christianity, to be Christ like, wasn't famous until America was titled "America". Now, there's several different forms of Christianity: Anglican, Lutheran, etc. Then, there was only one and it was a very Catholic Christian. (in and around Europe)



Every 'Merican has European ancestry. You may have been born in the 80's but your great-great-great-great grandfather wasn't, his teenaged love-cake wasn't either. (haha jk, that was most likely my great-great-great-great grandfather)



The deciding factor for every one question now-a-days is "what would God do?" You can't sit there and tell me our ancestors didn't ask themselves the same question before making a total irrational bend in time. I'm not dissing your beliefs, I'm not even trying to turn you to the (awesome) darkside. I'm reasonably jotting my input as to why my faith died.

racey gamer Due September 20; Goodyear, Arizona 11 posts
5th Apr '13
Quoting Bangtail:" <blockquote><b>Quoting racey gamer:</b>" After much study on the history of all religion, ... [snip!] ... it's been too easy to use religion as a means to gain power and wealth. You cannot blame a thing for what people do with it."


I do have my beliefs, but you are very correct.

Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8535 posts
5th Apr '13
Quoting racey gamer:" Catholicism was the OLDEST form of Christianity. (as much as Christians hate admitting it, historically, ... [snip!] ... beliefs, I'm not even trying to turn you to the (awesome) darkside. I'm reasonably jotting my input as to why my faith died."


What the everloving f**k are you even talking about? :lol:



Wikipedia that shit. I mean, start somewhere.



And how in the world do you figure all Americans are of European descent?



(I'm just feeding the troll, aren't I? :x)

racey gamer Due September 20; Goodyear, Arizona 11 posts
5th Apr '13
Quoting Stfu Squirrel:" What the everloving f**k are you even talking about? :lol: Wikipedia that shit. I mean, start somewhere. ... [snip!] ... And how in the world do you figure all Americans are of European descent? (I'm just feeding the troll, aren't I? :x)"


I'd thought I'd leave that fun for you.



;)

MysticWitchKat 2052 posts
6th Apr '13
Quoting Kimber-lily:" I think it is in the decline, but as with everything we, as humans, do it will come and go. I believe ... [snip!] ... tho. I am sure everyone you were around while growing up were Christian because that is who your parents chose to be around. "

I doubt that realistically. As populations get more educated, get better standards of living, and live longer, the the desire for religion diminishes. Europe started their decline far before us, and it's showing no signs of bouncing back.