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Why- possible pcos-metformin-miscarriage Mrs Kelly Kel TTC since Oct 2012; 1 child; 1 angel baby; Grand Prairie, Texas 397 posts
5th Apr '13

I keep asking myself why? What happened? Why me? The most important thing I keep thinking about is will it happen again?
I had the mirena for almost 4 years. (Our daughter will be 4 in May) got it out..no cycle for 3 months. Started taking metformin due to excess testostrone and possible pcos so I was not having a cycle or ovulating. I started taking the meds Jan 30th. I got my bfp Feb 25th the day after my birthday. 7 weeks pregnant we heard the baby's heart beat at 163. 5 days later I went to the restroom and wiped a bit of blood. Went to the dr the next day and the baby had no heart beat via ultrasound. Got a 2nd opinion and same thing. The baby stopped growing the day prior on Easter.
I feel like wow.. was it the meds? The dr says it was prob something wrong with the baby. But wow to hear the heart beat one week and nothing the next week. UGH UGH UGH! I will always wonder was it because I never had a cycle after the mirena and I just ovulated and got pregnant? Was it my levels ...was I not taking enough of the metformin?
I know I was only 8 weeks and mothers have lost children at other stages of the child's life but it still hurts. No one understands unless they've gone through it. I know we are young and can try again but how do I know it wont happen again. I have heard of women getting pregnant right after a miscarriage and etc. Im still trying to deal with this the natural way and not have a D&C or take any meds.. I had the pills called into my pharmacy to speed up the process. I don't know if I should take them or not. Any suggestions..help or anyone just want to talk? Thanks alot of reading and listening and caring!
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*C-Ya* 143 kids; Charles City, Iowa 6768 posts
5th Apr '13

I'm horrible at advice on this, but I wanted to say I am so sorry. There really isn't a way to know for sure what happened. Please don't beat yourself up.

Kaylees mommy 50 kids; North Dakota 323 posts
5th Apr '13
Quoting Mrs Kelly Kel:" I keep asking myself why? What happened? Why me? The most important thing I keep thinking about is will ... [snip!] ... should take them or not. Any suggestions..help or anyone just want to talk? Thanks alot of reading and listening and caring! =)"


I'm so sorry for your loss! I have PCOS and have a progesterone issues and have to have it supplemented.. I stopped taking my metformin right before I got pregnant with my son because my second miscarriage I was on metformin baby had heartbeat I have no clue if it was metformin or not enough progesterone or not. I was told with pcos you are at increased risk of miscarrying not sure why..

Mrs Kelly Kel TTC since Oct 2012; 1 child; 1 angel baby; Grand Prairie, Texas 397 posts
5th Apr '13
Quoting LivvieLousMama:" I'm horrible at advice on this, but I wanted to say I am so sorry. There really isn't a way to know for sure what happened. Please don't beat yourself up."

Thank you for your kind words

Mrs Kelly Kel TTC since Oct 2012; 1 child; 1 angel baby; Grand Prairie, Texas 397 posts
5th Apr '13
Quoting Kaylees mommy:" I'm so sorry for your loss! I have PCOS and have a progesterone issues and have to have it supplemented.. ... [snip!] ... was metformin or not enough progesterone or not. I was told with pcos you are at increased risk of miscarrying not sure why.."


Yea see they don't even know if I really have pcos or not. They said I had to much free testostrone ...that is why I had no cycles after the mirena they think. Neither ovary had cysts on them though. I took metformin the whole pregnancy I will always wonder was that a mistake or not. You said you stopped and had a healthy baby?No one ever checked my progestrone levels at all. smh I have a lot of questions to ask the doctor when I go back in two weeks.



Thanks for the kind words and sharing your experience with me!!!

Stephicus Due April 25 (girl); 1 child; Pennsylvania 116 posts
6th Apr '13

I have PCOS with all of the classic symptoms. If it weren't for Metformin, I wouldn't have gotten pregnant with my son who is now almost 5. I took the Metformin (2000 mg/day) the entire pregnancy and he is a happy healthy intelligent little boy. I am now almost 38 weeks pregnant with a little girl who I also conceived while taking Metformin and again, I've taken it the entire time. Also, I had a copper IUD still in place when I got pregnant with her. Thankfully I was monitoring my cycles because we were preparing to have it removed. They removed the IUD while I was 5 weeks pregnant and she's a fighter, she survived it. The one thing I did have this pregnancy (that no one checked the last time) was slightly lower levels of progesterone. They gave me suppositories to supplement it for the first like 13 weeks and that seemed to do the trick. I also have lots of excess free testosterone and I usually take Spironolactone for that. The spiro can cause problems with male fetuses, thankfully my baby is a little girl and I had stopped taking it a few weeks prior to getting pregnant because I was supposed to go in for some blood tests. My PCOS doctor does a lot of research on PCOS and he's very up on all the latest studies, he told me that the most progressive doctors are now recommending women stay on the Metformin through their pregnancies, it helps prevent gestational diabetes and helps to keep babys weight down later in pregnancy. As far as my experience goes, I don't think it was the Met that made you lose the baby, it could have been due to lower progesterone levels though, that's a common cause of MC in PCOS ladies. The next time you get a BFP, call your doctor and ask to have them test your levels right away. Quick and easy blood test and it should at least put your mind at ease. It's important to get those levels up as quickly as possible because in early pregnancy your body supplies the progesterone. After 12 weeks, the placenta takes over and you are usually good to go then. I just wanted to tell you my story in hopes it'd make you feel better about having taken the meds, mommies already have enough guilt. So sorry for your loss :(

Mrs Kelly Kel TTC since Oct 2012; 1 child; 1 angel baby; Grand Prairie, Texas 397 posts
7th Apr '13
Quoting Stephicus:" I have PCOS with all of the classic symptoms. If it weren't for Metformin, I wouldn't have gotten pregnant ... [snip!] ... in hopes it'd make you feel better about having taken the meds, mommies already have enough guilt. So sorry for your loss :("


Thank you so much for sharing. I was only taking 500mg of metformin. That is how much a day I was taking prior to getting pregnant. Sometimes I wonder was that enough. First of all I am going to check to see if I am diabetic and also do like you said....have them check my progestrone. They did a blood test and said everything came back fine but yea..who knows if they checked everything. My next apt is next week. I am going to ask all the questions.
Thanks for sharing. I am still taking metformin and will continue to if it will help me ovulate and have a cycle which I wasnt before taking it...

Kaylees mommy 50 kids; North Dakota 323 posts
7th Apr '13
Quoting Stephicus:" I have PCOS with all of the classic symptoms. If it weren't for Metformin, I wouldn't have gotten pregnant ... [snip!] ... in hopes it'd make you feel better about having taken the meds, mommies already have enough guilt. So sorry for your loss :("


Wow so this could be why I have larger babies?? I had no clue about this..

Kaylees mommy 50 kids; North Dakota 323 posts
7th Apr '13
Quoting Mrs Kelly Kel:" Yea see they don't even know if I really have pcos or not. They said I had to much free testostrone ... [snip!] ... of questions to ask the doctor when I go back in two weeks. Thanks for the kind words and sharing your experience with me!!!"


I did stop taking it I'm not sure if it was the reason for the miscarriage or not because I miscarried before and wasn't on the metformin at all. Sometimes for some reason they happen and they are so hard to go through. I'm really sorry that you had to go through this.. I would defiantly ask about the progesterone though. I had it tested with my daughter because a friend of mine who is an RE nurse told me to make sure I told them to test and when they did it came back low. I was supplemented with my daughter until week 15 and my son I took it until I was 18 weeks.

Mrs Kelly Kel TTC since Oct 2012; 1 child; 1 angel baby; Grand Prairie, Texas 397 posts
7th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Kaylees mommy:</b>" I did stop taking it I'm not sure if it was the reason for the miscarriage or not because I miscarried ... [snip!] ... when they did it came back low. I was supplemented with my daughter until week 15 and my son I took it until I was 18 weeks."</blockquote>



I will ask next time for sure.
We want one more child and I cannot imagine going through this again.

Kaylees mommy 50 kids; North Dakota 323 posts
7th Apr '13
Quoting Mrs Kelly Kel:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Kaylees mommy:</b>" I did stop taking it I'm not sure if it ... [snip!] ... I will ask next time for sure. We want one more child and I cannot imagine going through this again."

Don't blame you hun :( first was twins second was a singleton. We want more as well and afraid of it happening again as well. It also took us 5 and a half years of trying for our daughter and 3 years 4 months for our son.

Mrs Kelly Kel TTC since Oct 2012; 1 child; 1 angel baby; Grand Prairie, Texas 397 posts
7th Apr '13
Quoting Kaylees mommy:" Don't blame you hun :( first was twins second was a singleton. We want more as well and afraid of it ... [snip!] ... of it happening again as well. It also took us 5 and a half years of trying for our daughter and 3 years 4 months for our son."

Wow see that makes me feel bad. It only look us 3 months or so this time and with our daughter it took us um..about 4 "friendly meetings" lol we had just started talking. lmbo
See things happen when you arent planning them. Yes I am getting better everyday with trying not to blame my darn self.
Its just so hard.... =/
Thanks for your kind words girlie! Youve been a great help.

Kaylees mommy 50 kids; North Dakota 323 posts
7th Apr '13
Quoting Mrs Kelly Kel:" Wow see that makes me feel bad. It only look us 3 months or so this time and with our daughter it took ... [snip!] ... with trying not to blame my darn self. Its just so hard.... =/ Thanks for your kind words girlie! Youve been a great help."

No need to feel bad not your fault! I am very grateful for my babies and feel very blessed to have them! Please don't blame yourself it isn't your fault what so ever! Hang in there hun I'll be thinking of you! Your very welcome!

Mrs Kelly Kel TTC since Oct 2012; 1 child; 1 angel baby; Grand Prairie, Texas 397 posts
7th Apr '13
Quoting Kaylees mommy:" No need to feel bad not your fault! I am very grateful for my babies and feel very blessed to have them! ... [snip!] ... Please don't blame yourself it isn't your fault what so ever! Hang in there hun I'll be thinking of you! Your very welcome!"


Thank you! U Rock!

Stephicus Due April 25 (girl); 1 child; Pennsylvania 116 posts
8th Apr '13
Quoting Kaylees mommy:" Wow so this could be why I have larger babies?? I had no clue about this.."


Here's a good article that explains some of it, I can't say for 100% certain that your babies would be smaller if you take the Metformin, but from the research I've seen, it can only help.



http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/120108p38.shtml