Quoting Crystal Marie S.:" Tell your friend not to worry. It is NOT illegal to spank your kid in Oregon. Physical force is justified ... [snip!] ... the person reasonably believes necessary to maintain discipline or promote welfare of minor.
Quoting Head of Pots:" Well, then .. next time her aunt is in jail for smashing her daughters hand. I'll tell her not to go bail her out since she's not supposed to be there in the first place. :wink: "
Smashing someone's hand is not spanking.....
Quoting Crystal Marie S.:" Smashing someone's hand is not spanking....."
No shit. Yet, whether it's spanking, smashing someone's hand or putting your hands in whatever form on a child, could get you in prison in Oregon. As I am concerned. At the same time though, my best friend's cousin is or was a little rebel who will go out of her way to make her mom's life a living hell.
Quoting Head of Pots:" No shit. Yet, whether it's spanking, smashing someone's hand or putting your hands in whatever form ... [snip!] ... time though, my best friend's cousin is or was a little rebel who will go out of her way to make her mom's life a living hell. "
That makes absolutely no sense to me, because it directly conflicts with the law. I guess the Judges and Social Workers she had to deal with are just complete assholes. Or, the kid is telling them things that aren't true, or embellishing the truth to make it seem like things are way worse than what they are.
Quoting Crystal Marie S.:" That makes absolutely no sense to me, because it directly conflicts with the law. I guess the Judges ... [snip!] ... telling them things that aren't true, or embellishing the truth to make it seem like things are way worse than what they are."
Well, whatever it was .. she still has gone to jail for it a few times. I'm actually surprised they still give her the child back.
Quoting Head of Pots:" Well, whatever it was .. she still has gone to jail for it a few times. I'm actually surprised they still give her the child back. "
True. That whole situation sounds completely messed up to me.
Quoting Crystal Marie S.:" True. That whole situation sounds completely messed up to me."
Is it. Last time she called, her aunt was crying histerically and was telling my best friend that she loved her daughter and didn't want to lose her but that she couldn't handle the situation no more and was going to call the cops so they could take her.
I think she has more than 2,000 court and fees for all the claimed assaults against her.
I've spanked my three year old in public, he was being a smart ass and ran into the street after I told him to slow down and wait for me at the corner. I most definitely spanked him and it was no one's business but my own.
I wouldn't have said anything because I wouldn't want to criticize a stranger's parenting styles in public like that, but I don't really agree with spanking a child while in public to begin with.
If it was a few swats on the butt who cares. If she was going all crazy that's another thing. I have been spanked, my kids have been spanked. I would rather see a parent swat their child on the butt, then see a parent let their child act a fool in public.
Nope, nobody else's business IMO. As long as it's not crossing any lines into what I might consider abuse, do what you gotta' do. I've popped my kids' hands in public before. Sometimes they need a reminder that just because we're in public doesn't mean they're going to get away with stuff. And DD1 WILL take advantage if I let her think that. If anybody was to try to tell me something about it, I would instantly tell them to mind their own business. And I have before. I know my kids better than them and I know what works, nobody is going to tell me how to discipline my own kids.
Quoting Rebekah Garden x3:" ,I would let them decide whats too much. If they are doing that in public then What are they doing at home?!"
so you'll use precious resources on an assumption WOW
I'd like it better if the people that do it did it in public. That way we know who the freaks are and we can keep an eye on them. It's the ones who put one face on in public and do things behind closed doors that you really need to worry about.
Unless a child was being abused, I would not say a thing, or even think anything bad.
You don't wait to discipline a child. What is the point? A child should be disciplined right then and there, I Don't care where you are. If it's at a restaurant or some other public place where you can remove the child from the situation, that is what you do. You step outside, as to not cause a scene.
These people that threaten to call the cops because a child is getting spanked are not only stupid, they are dangerous because CPS MUST follow up on ALL calls, valid or not and it can create quite a headache for a parent or caregiver.
I don't agree with spanking but I know plenty of people who do and they would never abuse their child in public or in private. It's not mine or anyone else's business how they parent unless they are clearly abusing the child (using way too much force or leaving marks etc.) But to call CPS and assume what they see in a store is amplified at home is complete bullshit.