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UFC Transgender-Men fighting women Iron Man 6 kids; 1 angel baby; 1700 posts
9th Apr '13

I find this whole thing pretty fascinating. Here's the article:



http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-cagewriter/ufc-suspends-matt-mitrione-transphobic-comments-regarding-fallon-230051067--mma.html



The UFC wasted little time laying down the law on Matt Mitrione, suspending the heavyweight indefinitely for transphobic comments regarding Fallon Fox he made during an interview with Ariel Helwani Monday on "The MMA Hour."
Fox was born a man and underwent gender reassignment surgery in 2006 and has had two fights as a professional mixed martial artist, winning both.
Mitrione repeatedly referred to Fox as a he and called her as "a lying, sick, sociopathic disgusting freak."




"Because she's not a he. He's a he," he said. "He's chromosomally a man. He had a gender change, not a sex change. He's still a man. He was a man for 31 years. Thirty-one years. That's a couple years younger than I am. He's a man. Six years of taking performance de-hancing drugs, you think is going to change all that? That's ridiculous.
"That is a lying, sick, sociopathic, disgusting freak," Mitrione said. "And I mean that. Because you lied on your license to beat up women. That's disgusting. You should be embarrassed yourself. And the fact that Florida licensed him because California licensed him or whoever the hell did it, it's an embarrassment to us as fighters, as a sport, and we all should protest that. The woman that's fighting him, props to you. I hope you beat his ass, and I hope he gets blackballed and never fights again, because that's disgusting and I'm appalled by that."


The UFC, which announced a fighter code of conduct in January, moved swiftly to suspend Mitrione and denounce his comments.




"The UFC was appalled by the transphobic comments made by heavyweight Matt Mitrione today in an interview on 'The MMA Hour.' The organization finds Mr. Mitrione
❀Sarah❀ 2 kids; Cocking, EU, Europe 121521 posts
9th Apr '13

He is biologically a man, he should NOT be allowed to fight women. I'm sorry. And I agree with Matt on this one, I think he was saying that it was sick to want to fight women and it made the guy a freak for wanting that, hes not those things because hes transgendered.

user banned 2 kids; Georgia 24891 posts
9th Apr '13
Quoting Iron Man:" I find this whole thing pretty fascinating. Here's the article: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-c ... [snip!] ... thinking right now. What about you? Do you think that a transgendered male should be allowed to fight women in the arena? "


No.



Did he fight in the men's arena previously?

Iron Man 6 kids; 1 angel baby; 1700 posts
9th Apr '13
Quoting ⚓ Sarah ⚓:" He is biologically a man, he should NOT be allowed to fight women. I'm sorry. And I agree with Matt on ... [snip!] ... was sick to want to fight women and it made the guy a freak for wanting that, hes not those things because hes transgendered. "


That was my understanding as well...I didn't see him actually attack Fox for being transgendered, just for the fact that he then wanted to go beat up women in the arena.



Ok, something else to think about here. What if it was a transgendered woman fighting men? It's a good question, but I think the same thing applies. You fight in your own gender class, guy or girl.

tooodles 240 kids; Thailand 5075 posts
9th Apr '13

No he definitely shouldnt be able to.

❀Sarah❀ 2 kids; Cocking, EU, Europe 121521 posts
9th Apr '13
Quoting Iron Man:" That was my understanding as well...I didn't see him actually attack Fox for being transgendered, just ... [snip!] ... woman fighting men? It's a good question, but I think the same thing applies. You fight in your own gender class, guy or girl."


I wouldnt want a woman fighting a man either, biologically speaking. We're engineered differently.

Iron Man 6 kids; 1 angel baby; 1700 posts
9th Apr '13
Quoting A❤T=P&W:" No. Did he fight in the men's arena previously?"

He did not. He began his career fighting in the girl's arena...I think he's had two fights? I do know that Fox did not disclose his transgender status before going into the arena to fight his first female opponent. No one had any idea.

Booger & Bubba's Mommy 18 kids; Illinois 8136 posts
9th Apr '13

I somewhat agree with him. He could have chosen a better way to express his disgust though. There is certain things that transgendered shouldn't be allowed to do & competing in any sport should be one of them. There isnt a way to keep it fair for their competitors.

❀Sarah❀ 2 kids; Cocking, EU, Europe 121521 posts
9th Apr '13
Quoting Iron Man:" He did not. He began his career fighting in the girl's arena...I think he's had two fights? I do know ... [snip!] ... did not disclose his transgender status before going into the arena to fight his first female opponent. No one had any idea."


Which is illegal, its a form of fraud.



I cant believe Matt Mitrone is being punished like this.

user banned Due November 7 (boy); 1 child; Dayton, Ohio 26853 posts
9th Apr '13

Wow this is a tough one! I am normally on the side of LBGT rights but I don't know how I feel about this.

user banned 2 kids; Georgia 24891 posts
9th Apr '13
Quoting Iron Man:" He did not. He began his career fighting in the girl's arena...I think he's had two fights? I do know ... [snip!] ... did not disclose his transgender status before going into the arena to fight his first female opponent. No one had any idea."


that is shady.



I don't think the other guy's comments were "transphobic", I think he and all other fighters have a right to be outraged.

laurenmik 3 kids; Aurora, Colorado 7222 posts
9th Apr '13

I listened to a whole thing about this, and no I don't think he should be allowed to. Our bodies ARE built differently and it would be unfair.



I have no problem with him being transgendered, but that doesn't change his bone density and build.

Vitameatavegamin 19 kids; League City, Texas 5829 posts
9th Apr '13

This is wrong. WTF is Dana thinking?



Oh right, all he wants is an interesting fight. That's what he's all about. No regard to how wrong this is.




If he wanted to fight in the UFC he should have kept his dick and fought men. Just one of those things.

Iron Man 6 kids; 1 angel baby; 1700 posts
9th Apr '13
Quoting Smartass *Preggo!*:" Wow this is a tough one! I am normally on the side of LBGT rights but I don't know how I feel about this."



I mean, I totally think that Matt could have expressed himself better, but then again, he said it like it was. This is a person with the genetic make up of a guy going in and beating up a girl. I found a cage fighting site, and a couple more interesting things about this. First off, Fox is appearing to be a total jerk to any woman that doesn't want to fight him. If you have the time to read this (This came out after Peggy Morgan declined to fight him):
http://www.facebook.com/FallonFoxofficial/posts/142713195900653



And this is also a statement from Peggy Morgan about why she refused to fight him:



[Fallon Fox] claims that any woman who refuses to fight her is really just scared. This is absolutely delusional. Before the news of Fallon

Iron Man 6 kids; 1 angel baby; 1700 posts
9th Apr '13
Quoting Lady GooGoo