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TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22820 posts
10th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Minion:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Minion:</b>" ... [snip!] ... someone tried to take away my gun because of my meds. Now I understand if someone is certifiably crazy, but just on meds? No."</blockquote>




Yes, NYers should be out in protest.
My parents have no interest in guns and no mental illness but are on Zoloft and/or ambien. If they wanted a gun, they should be able to get one.
And, NOBODY should be reporting their meds to a central authority. NOBODY.

Nathan Young 2 kids; Syracuse, New York 57578 posts
10th Apr '13
Quoting Mama❍:" Is being pissed off not a good enough reason? lol No but I understand what you mean. And part of it ... [snip!] ... change and hopefully the young people involved politically will get a sense of what they want to focus on as they grow older. "


Haha, yeah, I know what you mean, too.



Being pissed off? Yeah, I guess it's a start... but when it's put towards a movement with no purpose and a movement that's supposed to have no leadership (and, to follow, not much organization)... it just turns into a joke and I think takes away from people that are really trying to make a change. Were some of their hearts in the right places? Absolutely. I just think the disaster came in with the actual movement, and some of the people that jumped on later just to party and have fun and look like they were involved.



And I agree, it's not easy to make a change. Our system is incredibly flawed. Can't agree more on that one.

NopeNotGonnaDOIt 6 kids; Cuba 3000 posts
10th Apr '13
Quoting The Doctor:" Haha, yeah, I know what you mean, too. Being pissed off? Yeah, I guess it's a start... but when it's ... [snip!] ... were involved. And I agree, it's not easy to make a change. Our system is incredibly flawed. Can't agree more on that one."


right right, like if it was going to turn into an ACTUAL nonprofit, like an organization say like Amnesty International (not a great example but you know what I mean) with concrete projects ect.. then that would have been great... and they would have just scored 350 grand! But now, where is that money going to go? How is it going to help people?

Nathan Young 2 kids; Syracuse, New York 57578 posts
10th Apr '13
Quoting Mama❍:" right right, like if it was going to turn into an ACTUAL nonprofit, like an organization say like Amnesty ... [snip!] ... great... and they would have just scored 350 grand! But now, where is that money going to go? How is it going to help people? "


It's really not. Are they actually going to be distributing that money? To whom??



And, yeah. If they had been a little bit organized, it's possible it could have done something positive. But, as it is, I think it hurt more than helped whatever cause they were fighting for. And (again, maybe this is me being a Negative Nancy :lol:) making other young people fighting for change look pretty silly. Not that it's right to group any young person with OWS, but it happens. Yaknow?



TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22820 posts
10th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting The Doctor:</b>" It's really not. Are they actually going to be distributing that money? To whom?? And, yeah. If they ... [snip!] ... fighting for change look pretty silly. Not that it's right to group any young person with OWS, but it happens. Yaknow? "</blockquote>




The money should go to all the homeless people that participated so they can go to college. It would better our society :)

NopeNotGonnaDOIt 6 kids; Cuba 3000 posts
10th Apr '13
Quoting The Doctor:" It's really not. Are they actually going to be distributing that money? To whom?? And, yeah. If they ... [snip!] ... fighting for change look pretty silly. Not that it's right to group any young person with OWS, but it happens. Yaknow? "


Apparently it was just settled in court, didn't read the whole settlement but it's posted somewhere online. Other media groups got money for destroyed property as well. Actually I do remember one other thing I liked about Occupy - their free teach-ins. That would have been something that could have went somewhere... educating people about whatever injustice or issue was on the table for that week. But I guess it was just too counter-productive.
I'll go see if I can find a link for ya for the above.

NopeNotGonnaDOIt 6 kids; Cuba 3000 posts
10th Apr '13
Quoting Mama❍:" Apparently it was just settled in court, didn't read the whole settlement but it's posted somewhere ... [snip!] ... table for that week. But I guess it was just too counter-productive. I'll go see if I can find a link for ya for the above. "


http://www.refinery29.com/2013/04/45472/occupy-wall-street-lawsuit-zuccotti-park-raid-settlement-2013?amp



ok gotta get to making dinner :)

Sarah ♥ K&K 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Oceanside, CA, United States 112503 posts
status 10th Apr '13
Quoting Mama❍:" Thats false because people were there for all sorts of different reasons, whatever was a personal or ... [snip!] ... was a personal or important issue for them. Yes it got heated and destructive but I would't say it was all for nothing, imo. "


how is it false when there were videos of people being interviewed and they couldnt answer why they were there or why they felt the way they did.

Nathan Young 2 kids; Syracuse, New York 57578 posts
10th Apr '13
Quoting Mama❍:" http://www.refinery29.com/2013/04/45472/occupy-wall-street-lawsuit-zuccotti-park-raid-settlement-2013?amp ok gotta get to making dinner :)"


Thanks for the article... it just doesn't say where in the heck the money goes!



Split among the people who owned the books and video equipment?

NopeNotGonnaDOIt 6 kids; Cuba 3000 posts
10th Apr '13
Quoting The Doctor:" Thanks for the article... it just doesn't say where in the heck the money goes! Split among the people who owned the books and video equipment?"


sorry.. if you click on the link "full settlement" in the article it has all the court papers... it might say in there?

The Bear and The Bird 2 kids; Vantaa, Finland 42577 posts
10th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Captain Lauren + ?:</b>" Not really. We were ranked 7 in the world for human freedom. http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/nz-leads-worldwide-in-human-freedom-5314956"</blockquote>




And there are what, 200 countries? So saying we have more rights than most countries IS accurate.

Nathan Young 2 kids; Syracuse, New York 57578 posts
10th Apr '13
Quoting Mama❍:" sorry.. if you click on the link "full settlement" in the article it has all the court papers... it might say in there? "


Gotcha! Gotta keep diggin' I guess. :lol:

NopeNotGonnaDOIt 6 kids; Cuba 3000 posts
10th Apr '13
Quoting ⚓ Sarah ⚓:" how is it false when there were videos of people being interviewed and they couldnt answer why they were there or why they felt the way they did."


several videos - heck even a hundred videos like that would not represent 75% of the real activists involved there. But I don't argue that lots of students just showed up for the heck of it probably in every city it was in.

Minion Due September 30; 2 kids; Toccoa, GA, United States 19992 posts
10th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting T - 8 days:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Captain Lauren + ?:</b>" Not really. We were ranked 7 in the ... [snip!] ... And there are what, 200 countries? So saying we have more rights than most countries IS accurate."</blockquote>




I would think there are way more than 200.



ETA: never mind. I looked it up. There are 196.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22820 posts
10th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mama❍:</b>" Apparently it was just settled in court, didn't read the whole settlement but it's posted somewhere ... [snip!] ... table for that week. But I guess it was just too counter-productive. I'll go see if I can find a link for ya for the above. "</blockquote>




Oh man, I would have LOVED to be in the audience for the "teach-ins." I'm sure their wouldnt have been any bias, though.