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TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23152 posts
12th Apr '13
Quoting Kyleigh'sMommy12:" when it comes to abortion I BELIEVE that it is the woman's choice. but there should be no way on earth ... [snip!] ... given the baby up for adoption if i didnt really want it. but to kill an innocent (already born) child, is INSANE! discussion?"


It's one of the most awful stories I can recall in my decades on this planet.
I'm in the Philly area so this is a local story.
What is also shocking to me is the lack of coverage of the story. Sure, it's grisly, but the liberal, pro-choice media doesn't want to report on a pro-abortionist.

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
12th Apr '13

In the documentary about this, I wanted to punch the woman in the face who said this man and his nurses "forced" her to have eight abortions.



Now, I'm pro-choice. Have twenty abortions if you want.



But seriously, you are a grown woman, how the hell is a doctor forcing you to have eight abortions? YOU get pregnant, YOU walk to the clinic, YOU make the appointment. :roll:

user banned 3 kids; Los Angeles, California 54034 posts
12th Apr '13
Quoting Dovahkiin:" In the documentary about this, I wanted to punch the woman in the face who said this man and his nurses ... [snip!] ... is a doctor forcing you to have eight abortions? YOU get pregnant, YOU walk to the clinic, YOU make the appointment. :roll:"


Have to say though, that if someone can believe in "birth rape" they can probably get a hold of the idea of "abortion rape" too.




Not sure of my feelings on either-I do know that my abortion experience was positive, early, and safe.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23152 posts
12th Apr '13
Quoting Moses.:" You don't ever read a story about a horrible crime and say "Oh well at least it was done in a humane ... [snip!] ... as the OP said, sickening. But the end result would have been the same even if it was moments before when still in the womb. "


NO. This isn't about FEELINGS. These were healthy, late-term babies is healthy mothers. It's not just illegal and immoral. It's grotesque murder.

Moses. Due October 27; 3 kids; Texas 16003 posts
12th Apr '13
Quoting TheNuge:" Um, no. These were healthy, viable babies that were born alive and killed. The man is a monster. the ... [snip!] ... monster. the women that went there were also awful but their babies were victims of murder. This isn't about personal feelings."


That's the thing, and that's what people need to remember, this is being watched carefully, and by people with absolutely the wrong motives behind it. Personally, I don't think this case should be given a lot of attention by the media. The man will undoubtedly get his justice. In the meantime, MY personal feelings and concerns are what will happen as a result of this. It will be a domino affect. The hoopla over the pp bullshit has already cost them funding from private donors and companies.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23152 posts
12th Apr '13
Quoting Moses.:" That's the thing, and that's what people need to remember, this is being watched carefully, and by people ... [snip!] ... It will be a domino affect. The hoopla over the pp bullshit has already cost them funding from private donors and companies. "


Any links showing the decline in PP's private funding?

Christan_89 2 kids; Grapevine, Texas 8043 posts
12th Apr '13
Quoting Moses.:" That's the thing, and that's what people need to remember, this is being watched carefully, and by people ... [snip!] ... It will be a domino affect. The hoopla over the pp bullshit has already cost them funding from private donors and companies. "


Don't you think that it would behoove the leaders of the pro-choice movement and PP to come out and openly address that this isn't what it's about and that THIS is, in fact, grotesque and awful and has nothing to do with being pro-choice? A lack of media coverage isn't going to do anything but make republicans point out the lack of media coverage....

Amelia [a Mom] 1 child; 4 angel babies; Tallahassee, Florida 16597 posts
status 12th Apr '13

It is not apparent in the title that the OP contains a very disturbing photo. I would remove the image and just post the link. I really wish I hadn't seen it.

Dovahkiin 1 child; 1 angel baby; Kentucky 16776 posts
12th Apr '13

Actually I don't think there has been that much media coverage. This was discovered in 2010 and people still don't know much more about it than what was originally discovered.

Moses. Due October 27; 3 kids; Texas 16003 posts
12th Apr '13
Quoting TheNuge:" Any links showing the decline in PP's private funding?"


No, I'll look and see if I can find it. Susan G Komen itself has lost tons of donations over it's giving to pp itself, it causes a domino affect. Just last week we had a group of people here boycott the race for the cure last weekend just because of the pp shit. .

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23152 posts
12th Apr '13
Quoting Dovahkiin:" Actually I don't think there has been that much media coverage. This was discovered in 2010 and people still don't know much more about it than what was originally discovered. "


You ar correct about coverage. It's hard to find.
The pro-choice people should be out front with their outrage.... but no, nothing. I'm pro-choice and it really bothers me that nobody is taking a stand for the PC side. and, it bothers me more that few media outlets are covering it.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23152 posts
12th Apr '13
Quoting Moses.:" No, I'll look and see if I can find it. Susan G Komen itself has lost tons of donations over it's giving ... [snip!] ... affect. Just last week we had a group of people here boycott the race for the cure last weekend just because of the pp shit. ."


But that is because of SUPPORT for PP.

user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
12th Apr '13
Quoting Moses.:" No, I'll look and see if I can find it. Susan G Komen itself has lost tons of donations over it's giving ... [snip!] ... affect. Just last week we had a group of people here boycott the race for the cure last weekend just because of the pp shit. ."

Because people don't understand that nearly all of what PP does is ST testing and treatment, contraception, sexual health education, pregnancy testing, and female reproductive health screenings. :roll:

Moses. Due October 27; 3 kids; Texas 16003 posts
12th Apr '13
Quoting Asher and Haddie's Mommy:" Don't you think that it would behoove the leaders of the pro-choice movement and PP to come out and ... [snip!] ... pro-choice? A lack of media coverage isn't going to do anything but make republicans point out the lack of media coverage.... "


Because pro-lifers will make the SAME claims as I did and will twist and turn it to their own convenience. Maybe I didn't make my point well enough, but it's how they will turn it and they will be a lot more adamant than I was.

S U Z I E 3 kids; Venezuela 18566 posts
12th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Dovahkiin:</b>" No, with late term abortions they inject potassium chloride into the fetus's heart. Snipping is barbaric, it requires the woman to literally give birth first. "</blockquote>




All abortions in the 2nd and 3rd trimester require you to give birth. The baby is too large to be sucked out by vacuum...