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K and N TTC since Nov 2012; 2 kids; Denver City, Texas 1890 posts
17th Apr '13
Quoting Jays*Mama:" I can't belIeve some people think are government is good."


I can believe that people think it's good. They can be very persuasive.



What surprises me is that s0 many people won't even consider the alternative.

Sofie+#2 Due March 18; TTC since Jun 2014; 1 child; Sheffield, So, United Kingdom 7747 posts
18th Apr '13
Quoting kacti:" I can believe that people think it's good. They can be very persuasive. What surprises me is that s0 many people won't even consider the alternative."


Lmao, and what alternative would that be?

K and N TTC since Nov 2012; 2 kids; Denver City, Texas 1890 posts
18th Apr '13
Quoting Sofia's Mummy♥:" Lmao, and what alternative would that be?"


...That the government is not good...

Ellie. 34 kids; Arizona 25371 posts
18th Apr '13

Yes..... I honestly do think there will be a LOT of pissed off people if they try to "ban all guns". BUT... it will never happen. Ever. In the .00000001 percent chance that it does... bet your ass, they will be taking our guns from our cold dead hands. These are our rights that we were given and I believe they are worth fighting for. People WILL rise up if the government tries to impose those kinds of rules and restrictions.

Molon Labe.

❀Sarah❀ 2 kids; Cocking, EU, Europe 123057 posts
18th Apr '13

The first round of stricter gun control was shot down yesterday. The one prohibiting the sale of the AR-15 and one with a national registry of every gun anyone owns(legally of course) and where they live. Also, if you've ever been on any mental health drugs or spoken to a mental health professional you'd never be able to own a gun.




I think the right choices were made yesterday.

K and N TTC since Nov 2012; 2 kids; Denver City, Texas 1890 posts
18th Apr '13
Quoting ⚓ Sarah ⚓:" The first round of stricter gun control was shot down yesterday. The one prohibiting the sale of the ... [snip!] ... or spoken to a mental health professional you'd never be able to own a gun. I think the right choices were made yesterday."


I agree.

Ellie. 34 kids; Arizona 25371 posts
18th Apr '13
Quoting ⚓ Sarah ⚓:" The first round of stricter gun control was shot down yesterday. The one prohibiting the sale of the ... [snip!] ... or spoken to a mental health professional you'd never be able to own a gun. I think the right choices were made yesterday."


Which is great. You know how many people suffer from daily stress? So if you have a temporary stressor in your life such as a divorce or work stuff, you cant own a gun because you wanted someone to talk to and sort our how to deal with things? or if you had low self esteem? or were going through normal teenage angst? It's ridiculous. I mean.. I could see if you saw someone and there were red flags, talking about hurting someone or yourself, but just TALKING to a professional anytime in your life... most of America wouldnt be able to own one. It's stupid. Just stupid.

Not to mention how many HIPAA laws that would violate........

Madi's*Mama Due November 2; 1 child; Holland, Michigan 7391 posts
18th Apr '13
Quoting ⚓ Sarah ⚓:" The first round of stricter gun control was shot down yesterday. The one prohibiting the sale of the ... [snip!] ... or spoken to a mental health professional you'd never be able to own a gun. I think the right choices were made yesterday."

Wait, so HAD it passed that would mean DH wouldn't be able to own a gun because he talked to someone and was put on anxiety meds from the stress of going from a small town high school to a large university his freshman year of college?

Sofie+#2 Due March 18; TTC since Jun 2014; 1 child; Sheffield, So, United Kingdom 7747 posts
18th Apr '13
Quoting kacti:" ...That the government is not good..."


I agree that in its current form it isn't. I can't stand libertarianism though so whatcha gonna do. Too individualistic.

❀Sarah❀ 2 kids; Cocking, EU, Europe 123057 posts
18th Apr '13
Quoting Madi's*Mama:" Wait, so HAD it passed that would mean DH wouldn't be able to own a gun because he talked to someone ... [snip!] ... put on anxiety meds from the stress of going from a small town high school to a large university his freshman year of college? "


I'm not sure if he would be grandfathered in but I do know any new people applying for a permit to own a gun would be denied.

Ellie. 34 kids; Arizona 25371 posts
18th Apr '13
Quoting ⚓ Sarah ⚓:" I'm not sure if he would be grandfathered in but I do know any new people applying for a permit to own a gun would be denied. "


HIPAA... i dont know how that's legal. AT ALL.

K and N TTC since Nov 2012; 2 kids; Denver City, Texas 1890 posts
18th Apr '13
Quoting Sofia's Mummy♥:" I agree that in its current form it isn't. I can't stand libertarianism though so whatcha gonna do. Too individualistic."


Hmmm. I guess you could say I share many of the same views as included in the libertarian philosophy.
I believe in having a limited government that is ruled by the people, and not vise versa. What do you mean by TOO individualistic?

❀Sarah❀ 2 kids; Cocking, EU, Europe 123057 posts
18th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting kacti:</b>" Hmmm. I guess you could say I share many of the same views as included in the libertarian philosophy. ... [snip!] ... in having a limited government that is ruled by the people, and not vise versa. What do you mean by TOO individualistic?"</blockquote>




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Ellie. 34 kids; Arizona 25371 posts
18th Apr '13
Quoting kacti:" Hmmm. I guess you could say I share many of the same views as included in the libertarian philosophy. ... [snip!] ... in having a limited government that is ruled by the people, and not vise versa. What do you mean by TOO individualistic?"


I pretty much identify mostly with libertarian views. :shrug:

Livin Dead Girl Due May 15; 2 kids; Tyrone, Georgia 1766 posts
18th Apr '13

I don't think that it will cause a war but it will cause an uprising. People will not sit back and let their rights be taken away or limited.
What will happen is that if even one of the laws passes with even the tiniest limitation on gun rights another will be passed and another and another and before long you will not be able to get a gun/ have to surrender any guns that you might have.
I am a very proud gun owner and have been since I was 15 years old. I refuse to have my rights taken away. Just because you make them illegal doesn't mean the they will be taken away from the people that actually mean to do people harm. Tell me again how meth and coke are illegal and kept off the streets?