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one of each 4 me Due January 8; TTC since Mar 2014; 3 kids; Ohio 6195 posts
status 17th Apr '13

i do not support him or his music because i feel like he only apologized or had a change of heart after he earned millions of dollars from our country that he used to hate. he likely is still talking bad about us in the comfort of his new big home.

Minion Due September 30 (girl); 2 kids; ., GA, United States 21178 posts
17th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mum to a Monster:</b>" Most don't forgive him because he turned around after the "apology" and said he only did it for the money, he didn't mean a word but his label and PR group threatened to drop him if he didn't do it."</blockquote>




I tried looking that up and I couldn't find anything but speculation.

Ayzya 1 child; California 467 posts
17th Apr '13

Thank you for touching on this topic, because I happen to love Psy too. It has nothing to do with the fact that i'm Asian, because i'm not Korean but I love Korean music. I love Psy not just for his hit Gangnam Style, but I actually love his older stuff and I think he's very inventive and I love his expression in his music and how he's willing to go outside of the box and even push buttons a little.



As far as people not forgiving him, I think sometimes things are just said in the heat of the moment, and it was a one-time deal that was blown up in the media. Of course everybody likes to focus on any kind of negative they can find. It's in no way right to condemn a nation for the actions of a few that in no way is representative of the whole, especially when you are talking about something like War, which is a highly sensitive issue, but it'd be a downright lie to say it's not something more common than not. I think there's way more to it than what we know, the media just likes to blow it up into a huge issue and people just can't be open-minded sometimes, or be happy for somebody and their success.

Minion Due September 30 (girl); 2 kids; ., GA, United States 21178 posts
17th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting one of each 4 me:</b>" i do not support him or his music because i feel like he only apologized or had a change of heart after ... [snip!] ... of dollars from our country that he used to hate. he likely is still talking bad about us in the comfort of his new big home."</blockquote>



He may have truly had a change of heart though. Ive had a few in my life. Like I use to be horribly pro-life and thought all women who had abortions were monsters. Then I met some women who had abortions and I started doing research and I realized I was very wrong.

Minion Due September 30 (girl); 2 kids; ., GA, United States 21178 posts
17th Apr '13

Also it's not like he made these anti-American statements just recently. This was many years ago. I could understand if he were caught a few months ago talking shit then turning around saying "oops sorry", but this was years an years ago.

Mum to a Monster TTC since Jan 2014; 1 child; 5 angel babies; Colorado 11565 posts
17th Apr '13
Quoting Minion:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Mum to a Monster:</b>" Most don't forgive him because he turned ... [snip!] ... to drop him if he didn't do it."</blockquote> I tried looking that up and I couldn't find anything but speculation."


When She gets back online(she is deployed) i'll ask her to send me the link.



They could have also pulled it for that same reason.....

Moses. Due October 27; 3 kids; Texas 16003 posts
17th Apr '13

We suck, no doubt about that. During the Clinton impeachment bullshit we bombed the f**k out of the middle east, killing tons of civilians. In fact back then, Ron Paul predicted 9/11 simply because of what we were doing, illegally no less. But Psy didn't just say America sucks. He wrote a song about how the wives and children of soldiers should be murdered. And of course he apologized, our American money is too good not to, no matter how much he thinks we should die.

Minion Due September 30 (girl); 2 kids; ., GA, United States 21178 posts
17th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Mum to a Monster:</b>" When She gets back online(she is deployed) i'll ask her to send me the link. They could have also pulled it for that same reason....."</blockquote>




Thanks. I'd like to read it.

Moses. Due October 27; 3 kids; Texas 16003 posts
17th Apr '13
Quoting ღFrodoliciousღ:" You know, I'd care more about his political views if if had anything to do with his music or his product. ... [snip!] ... saying Beyonce was better, yeah they'd be broke now. It's not about their personal views, but the product they put out. "


His song was about killing the wives and children of soldiers.........so it kind of had a lot do with his music or product.........

Moses. Due October 27; 3 kids; Texas 16003 posts
17th Apr '13
Quoting ღFrodoliciousღ:" And rappers sing about killing the police, raping women, and shooting each other up. I don't see them ... [snip!] ... alike, aren't exactly fond of ol' 'Murica. A product is meant to sell to one demographic. At that time... it was Koreans. "


What does the rappers have to do with anything? I never praised their work :? I find them as disgusting, personally.

Minion Due September 30 (girl); 2 kids; ., GA, United States 21178 posts
17th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Moses.:</b>" We suck, no doubt about that. During the Clinton impeachment bullshit we bombed the f**k out of the middle ... [snip!] ... be murdered. And of course he apologized, our American money is too good not to, no matter how much he thinks we should die."</blockquote>




To be fair American military DID kill Korean wives and children. In one of the stories I read, some Korean men ran out yelling that there were children and they all were unarmed. The Americans killed them then massacred the rest. This happened in the middle of the night while people were asleep.
How would you feel if the same thing happened here with some foreign military? We wouldn't be too find of them either.

Moses. Due October 27; 3 kids; Texas 16003 posts
17th Apr '13
Quoting ღFrodoliciousღ:" It has to do with a lot, considering that a LOT of the people who are all anti-Psy because he's anti-American, ... [snip!] ... America, he is entitled to his views, just like you and others who feel the same are entitled to think he's trash for it. "


Ah, I get what you are saying. I don't listen to a lot of music for the same reason I don't listen to Psy :lol: But I know what you mean, a lot do.

Moses. Due October 27; 3 kids; Texas 16003 posts
17th Apr '13
Quoting Minion:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Moses.:</b>" We suck, no doubt about that. During the Clinton ... [snip!] ... asleep. How would you feel if the same thing happened here with some foreign military? We wouldn't be too find of them either."


I know. But no matter what, I'd never wish death upon anyone as a whole. KWIM?

Minion Due September 30 (girl); 2 kids; ., GA, United States 21178 posts
17th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Moses.:</b>" I know. But no matter what, I'd never wish death upon anyone as a whole. KWIM?"</blockquote>




True, but the military kind of represents the rest in a way.
And apparently America's military never really left S. Korea. Imagine growing up with a foreign military stationed in your country that had done all those things. You'd grow up hearing the stories and how inhumane they were. If you grow up hearing something it becomes ingrained and you believe it as truth. Then the same military runs over some school girls and aren't punished for it. That would make the distrust and hatred even worse.



But you have a point. No one should judge a whole country on a few jackasses.

......... nowhere, NW, United States 25972 posts
17th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting one of each 4 me:</b>" i do not support him or his music because i feel like he only apologized or had a change of heart after ... [snip!] ... of dollars from our country that he used to hate. he likely is still talking bad about us in the comfort of his new big home."</blockquote>




I think I would hate a country if they came to my home (country) and killed innocent kids too. Maybe not necessarily the people, but the country for sure.