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Moses. Due October 27; 3 kids; Texas 16003 posts
18th Apr '13
Quoting Madi's*Mama:" <blockquote><b>Quoting kacti:</b>" IMO... I don't think we should have them at all. ... [snip!] ... hands of mentally unstable and dangerous felons but I think we need to do it without stepping on the rights of everyone else."


Completely agree. Just because we think criminals will do it anyway doesn't mean there shouldn't be ways of attempting to prevent it. That goes with everything. We already know a person who really wants to drive is going to anyway, so why not ditch driving licenses? And hell, people who want to speed will anyway. Why not just remove all laws in general?

K and N TTC since Nov 2012; 2 kids; Denver City, Texas 1890 posts
18th Apr '13
Quoting Madi's*Mama:" <blockquote><b>Quoting kacti:</b>" IMO... I don't think we should have them at all. ... [snip!] ... hands of mentally unstable and dangerous felons but I think we need to do it without stepping on the rights of everyone else."


I just don't really see a happy median here... I mean obviously I don't REALLY think that criminals and psycos should legally be allowed to have guns... but they will have them. and everyone knows they will. and it seems to me that any other course of action IS going to trample everyone else's rights.

K and N TTC since Nov 2012; 2 kids; Denver City, Texas 1890 posts
18th Apr '13
Quoting Moses.:" Completely agree. Just because we think criminals will do it anyway doesn't mean there shouldn't be ... [snip!] ... so why not ditch driving licenses? And hell, people who want to speed will anyway. Why not just remove all laws in general? "


LOL. Ok... you may have taken my comment a little too literally... all I'm saying is this: The bad guys ARE going to have them regardless of the law, because they don't care about the law. The good guys won't have them...because they obey the law. That leaves a criminal with a gun, and a law abiding citizen with no gun. It's bullshit to give the advantage to the criminals at the expense of those who try to do the right thing, and only wish to live peacefully, and protect their families if need be. I know that's not the intention or motivation for these gun law proposals.. but that's the outcome that I foresee. Nothing good can come of them... I would be more comfortable going the opposite direction and giving them to everyone, rather than no one. (I know no one is trying to take them from everyone... it's just that I believe that will be the next step... after mandatory registry, extensive BGC, and bans for certain members of society... like those who have seen a shrink ever in their life, or been on meds ever in their life... it's far fetched, I know)



And... I kinda think it's unfair to even compare guns and drivers licenses.
Only because if I don't have a license and a criminal does... that doesn't have the potential to kill me, or protect me. Just sayin'.

Moses. Due October 27; 3 kids; Texas 16003 posts
18th Apr '13
Quoting kacti:" LOL. Ok... you may have taken my comment a little too literally... all I'm saying is this: The bad guys ... [snip!] ... if I don't have a license and a criminal does... that doesn't have the potential to kill me, or protect me. Just sayin'."


Do you realize what is actually being debated in this thread? It isn't all of the gun law proposals, it is simply the 1, for requiring ALL states to require background checks for online and gun show sales. This isn't about taking guns away from law abiding citizens. It's about making it harder for a criminal to go into a gun show and buy whatever they want, or shop online from the comfort of their home for a gun. The redundant "well they will get a gun if they really want to" can only be taken as "well let's just throw our hands up and not even try." And a person without a license behind the wheel of a vehicle can very well be a deadly situation. But it happens a lot, and would happen a hell of a lot more without the laws we currently have in place.

мɑkɑnɑni 1 angel baby; ~, FL, United States 65436 posts
18th Apr '13
Quoting Moses.:" Again, it's not STRICTER background checks, it's a background check, period :lol:"


Regardless. It doesn't keep guns out of people's hands they shouldn't be in.

⚓Misty⚓ 4 kids; Keenesburg, Colorado 7275 posts
18th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Moses.:</b>" Do you realize what is actually being debated in this thread? It isn't all of the gun law proposals, ... [snip!] ... be a deadly situation. But it happens a lot, and would happen a hell of a lot more without the laws we currently have in place."</blockquote>



Well I agree that a background check is needed for any gun purchase, online, private, or from a dealer