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Mari-C 18 kids; Nebraska 3695 posts
23rd Apr '13

My guess is the reason this isn't in the media is because it would cause a f**king hail storm of debates the media is no where near ready/prepared for. Imagine how hot and angered this makes you (me personally) and magnify that by 1,000,000,000.

mamaluvsher4babies 36 kids; California 4230 posts
23rd Apr '13

This guy is a sick mother effer! But the woman are just as sick! This has nothing to do with abortion. Sorry but the women are just as guilty as killing their children! How come they are not being charged?

CJKB+JMB=AMB 1 child; Watertown, New York 2525 posts
23rd Apr '13
Mari-C 18 kids; Nebraska 3695 posts
23rd Apr '13
Quoting mamaluvsher4babies:" This guy is a sick mother effer! But the woman are just as sick! This has nothing to do with abortion. ... [snip!] ... to do with abortion. Sorry but the women are just as guilty as killing their children! How come they are not being charged?"


No. Women have abortions for many different reasons. IMO, they are not criminals. This wouldn't be news if he performed the abortions legally.
The women having the abortions have nothing to do with the way this sick, demented, f**k carried out the procedures. They suffered as well.

The Bear and The Bird 2 kids; Vantaa, Finland 42577 posts
23rd Apr '13

This just reinforces my opinion.



If these women had had access to affordable, legal, and later-term abortions, this man wouldn't have had such an easy time mutilating those women, babies, and corpses.

Mama Rice 34 kids; North Las Vegas, Nevada 11980 posts
23rd Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Kaleighshaleigh:</b>" Anyone wonder why this isn't all over the news? "</blockquote>



Because most of the facts are too gruesome for a Saw movie, let alone the news.

mamaluvsher4babies 36 kids; California 4230 posts
23rd Apr '13
Quoting Mrs. C. (Emmy&Jazzy!):" No. Women have abortions for many different reasons. IMO, they are not criminals. This wouldn't be ... [snip!] ... the abortions have nothing to do with the way this sick, demented, f**k carried out the procedures. They suffered as well."


Has that been proven? Honestly, is there any links? Were the women sick? Cause the one who was 29 weeks wasn't. She changed her mind. Sorry but if there was nothing threatening these womens lives then they are just as guilty. Also they could have went to a hospital if they were dying, no hospital is going to turn them away! If there is any links about these women please post, I would love the be proven wrong.

Mari-C 18 kids; Nebraska 3695 posts
23rd Apr '13
Quoting mamaluvsher4babies:" Has that been proven? Honestly, is there any links? Were the women sick? Cause the one who was 29 weeks ... [snip!] ... no hospital is going to turn them away! If there is any links about these women please post, I would love the be proven wrong. "

What do you want to be proven wrong about? That the women sufferd? Yeah, ok...let me dial one of them up and they can tell you. Seriously, imagine yourself going through that, not an abortion, but imagine yourself being left bleeding on a toilet and shit, and tell me you didn't suffer. I'm talking about the lack of treatment and proper care that these women were denied. I could give two shits about why they wanted an abortion. f**k, dogs get treated a little more humane that that.

mamaluvsher4babies 36 kids; California 4230 posts
23rd Apr '13
Quoting Mrs. C. (Emmy&Jazzy!):" What do you want to be proven wrong about? That the women sufferd? Yeah, ok...let me dial one of them ... [snip!] ... were denied. I could give two shits about why they wanted an abortion. f**k, dogs get treated a little more humane that that."


Your right dogs do get treated better then humans

CJKB+JMB=AMB 1 child; Watertown, New York 2525 posts
23rd Apr '13
Quoting Mrs. C. (Emmy&Jazzy!):" No. Women have abortions for many different reasons. IMO, they are not criminals. This wouldn't be ... [snip!] ... the abortions have nothing to do with the way this sick, demented, f**k carried out the procedures. They suffered as well."


the point is its ILLEGAL to have an abortion after 20 weeks in PA so... yes that does make the mothers criminals

CJKB+JMB=AMB 1 child; Watertown, New York 2525 posts
23rd Apr '13
Quoting Mrs. C. (Emmy&Jazzy!):" What do you want to be proven wrong about? That the women sufferd? Yeah, ok...let me dial one of them ... [snip!] ... were denied. I could give two shits about why they wanted an abortion. f**k, dogs get treated a little more humane that that."


they were breaking the law, getting abortions done on viable babies, they deserved to suffer for it, they shouldnt have been there in the first place! they ALLOWED someone to murder their baby!

mamaluvsher4babies 36 kids; California 4230 posts
23rd Apr '13
Quoting Carissa Biron:" they were breaking the law, getting abortions done on viable babies, they deserved to suffer for it, they shouldnt have been there in the first place! they ALLOWED someone to murder their baby!"


Exactly. How does it make sense that The DR gets charged but not the women? You can't call that DR a murderer and say the women are innocent. It's mentality like that is why society is effed up. If I gave you a gun KNOWING you were going to KILL someone, I would be charged also. It's nothing but a bunch of hypocrites.

CJKB+JMB=AMB 1 child; Watertown, New York 2525 posts
23rd Apr '13
Quoting mamaluvsher4babies:" Exactly. How does it make sense that The DR gets charged but not the women? You can't call that DR a ... [snip!] ... If I gave you a gun KNOWING you were going to KILL someone, I would be charged also. It's nothing but a bunch of hypocrites. "


thats a great analogy! (i think thats the word) and you know I tried finding something on the mothers in this case, couldnt find ANYTHING! weird right?

Anja[VBA2C GRADx2!] 5 kids; Illinois 3567 posts
23rd Apr '13
Quoting Carissa Biron:" they were breaking the law, getting abortions done on viable babies, they deserved to suffer for it, they shouldnt have been there in the first place! they ALLOWED someone to murder their baby!"

Did you completely miss the point where they were manipulated to believe they were less pregnant than they actually were? Most believed they were 20 weeks or less. There is a documentary on this called 3801 Lancaster. There's women on this documentary who talk about how the doctor lied to them, had staff tell them it was all ok , etc. They were manipulated to believe they were getting a safe legal abortion, OR they were forced to undergo it regardless if they wanted it after seeing the clinic as they were drugged to near death and tied down. Besides that , women were getting referred to this guy by reputable doctors, and it was also the only clinic in the area offering abortions to poor women.



The women are innocent victims, they didn't know this would at all happen to them, and usually once it did happen to them it was too late for them to do anything because they were drugged to silence and unable to leave the clinic. This guy maimed innocent women who were only looking for an abortion and what they thought was a safe , legal, and affordable one. This rendered women infertile, made them end up with sexually transmitted diseases, and harmed them in so many ways.



If you don't believe these women were innocent, you are missing the point basically. They're entirely innocent. Also sick as f**k if you think they deserve any of that, VERY SICK!

Anja[VBA2C GRADx2!] 5 kids; Illinois 3567 posts
23rd Apr '13
Quoting mamaluvsher4babies:" Exactly. How does it make sense that The DR gets charged but not the women? You can't call that DR a ... [snip!] ... If I gave you a gun KNOWING you were going to KILL someone, I would be charged also. It's nothing but a bunch of hypocrites. "

Let me reinterate it:
THEY DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE AS FAR AS ALONG.
They were lied to.
They were drugged and some times these abortions were done while they were trying to leave the clinic.