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Crystal 3 kids; Hephzibah, Georgia 15566 posts
Apr 25th '13

Reading the original article posted here, I disagree with it. People seek welfare because they have little to no income. How would they be able to pay up front for a drug test? It doesn't matter if you're reimbursed or not, if you don't have the money, you and your kids starve? That seems harsh.

Lucid Dreamer Florida 3888 posts
Apr 25th '13
Quoting LEGENDARY JAS ♥:" I think those who agree with this aren't looking at the bigger picture. What about the children of drug ... [snip!] ... their parents have a drug problem? Does FL think that this is going to make those people get clean? If so, they are dead wrong."

The kids should not even be with the parents while they have a drug problem.

Redneck Mamma North Carolina 8755 posts
Apr 25th '13
Quoting FroggysMommy:" Even if you didn't know someone that made tattoos, it's like "Wow, you worked and saved up for that ... [snip!] ... you saved up is going to make people say "NOPE! No more food stamps for you! It doesn't work that way. People are dumb!"


If I could feed my family decent for 200 bucks a month I wouldn't need foodstamps...200 might last two weeks unless we decide not to eat anymore meat.. We did start buying in bulk when possible. The local piggly wiggly sometimes has steaks and porkchops they sell that haven't been cut yet. Obviously the steaks are more expensive but it will feed the family for almost 2 months by itself. I know I will get shit for saying I buy steaks but 30-40 steaks a rack of ribs, and beef tips for stews its a damn good deal.

K and N TTC since Nov 2012; 2 kids; Denver City, Texas 1890 posts
Apr 25th '13
Quoting redneck mamma:" Us broke folks aren't supposed to have any fun. no alcohol every once in a while, no pot every so often ... [snip!] ... I think if someone calls and says this person is selling their foodstamps for drugs it should be looked into definitely."


I don't think anyone's saying you can't have fun...



My point is that if I have to get drug tests to work and pay taxes that fund welfare, then you should get drug tests to receive it. I can't smoke pot every so often. i want to, but I can't.If I choose to, I will lose my job. It's fair to me that you should lose or risk losing your benefits if you choose to.

ღ Diana ღ Michigan 15726 posts
Apr 25th '13
Quoting Vault Dweller
ღ Diana ღ Michigan 15726 posts
Apr 25th '13
Quoting FroggysMommy:" I'm appalled when people try to limit the rights of others just because they think their way of life ... [snip!] ... if a child says "Lets go to the movies!" The mother is supposed to say "No baby, we are on food stamps, no movie for you!""


This made me laugh :oops: lol



We get FS but it only helps us monthly and we still need to buy groceries with our hard earned money to get us by for a whole month. Eventually we will be tampering off of assistance but it's not like I am dirt broke every month. I mean hell, people on assistance need to buy clothes and shoes to wear plus toiletries and what not. I certainly hope people don't expect me to wipe my ass with leaves and wash my clothes in rain water.

ღ Diana ღ Michigan 15726 posts
Apr 25th '13
Quoting kacti:" I don't think anyone's saying you can't have fun... My point is that if I have to get drug tests to ... [snip!] ... I can't.If I choose to, I will lose my job. It's fair to me that you should lose or risk losing your benefits if you choose to."


It's annoying when people say that "well if I have to get drug tested for my job......" well shit not every single employer drug tests people. I've never been drug tested for a job before EVER and I have held many jobs. To me that point is invalid.




Pot is not a hardcore drug to me and I know a lot of people who smoke it. I can get high and not pay a dime. So I guess if someone wants to get pissed at me for spending their tax dollars while I get high for free then fine b***h all you want. I'm amused :lol:

K and N TTC since Nov 2012; 2 kids; Denver City, Texas 1890 posts
Apr 25th '13
Quoting ღ Diana ღ:" It's annoying when people say that "well if I have to get drug tested for my job......" well shit not ... [snip!] ... to get pissed at me for spending their tax dollars while I get high for free then fine b***h all you want. I'm amused :lol:"


Good. That just shows your lack of character... can't wait til Michigan follows suit with Florida, and you get your benefits that I pay for taken away.



Someone pointed out earlier in this thread.. that if your holding down a minimum wage job... (which most of those you don't get drug tested for)... and you're broke enough to qualify for welfare, your tax liability is 0. Your point is invalid.

♡☆º×ß¡±©µ×º☆♡ 4 kids; 1 angel baby; Grand Forks, ND, United States 49239 posts
Apr 25th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting kacti:</b>" Good. That just shows your lack of character... can't wait til Michigan follows suit with Florida, and ... [snip!] ... don't get drug tested for)... and you're broke enough to qualify for welfare, your tax liability is 0. Your point is invalid."</blockquote>




Oh so us min wage workers arent shit and because you get paid more you are more entitled .

K and N TTC since Nov 2012; 2 kids; Denver City, Texas 1890 posts
Apr 25th '13
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user banned 1 child; Golden, Colorado 28482 posts
Apr 25th '13
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K and N TTC since Nov 2012; 2 kids; Denver City, Texas 1890 posts
Apr 25th '13
Quoting FroggysMommy:" I know, right? I've said before, jobs shouldn't even drug test to begin with. You can grow your own ... [snip!] ... you only complaining because it's weed.... or do you all really think that nope, on welfare means no extra money for anything!"


That is not the point, though. It's not about dictating what people do what their money... I really couldn't care less. But as long as employers for taxpayers are going to drug test... welfare should drug test.



I agree... employers SHOULD NOT drug test! I want to get high in the evenings after working all day, too! But I can't I will lose my job- which enables me to pay the taxes that contribute to the welfare system. Why the hell should welfare beneficiaries have more leniency than the people who fund welfare?? That makes no sense! If that's the case.. why don't we all go work minimum wage jobs that don't require drug testing, that way we can all get on welfare, and smoke pot? If we did that... no one would have tax liability, and then guess what.. there's no tax money to fund welfare, and we're all SOL.

user banned 2 kids; Georgia 24891 posts
Apr 25th '13
Quoting FroggysMommy:" I know, right? I've said before, jobs shouldn't even drug test to begin with. You can grow your own ... [snip!] ... you only complaining because it's weed.... or do you all really think that nope, on welfare means no extra money for anything!"


I have a problem with people on welfare doing drugs. If there is "extra" money for drugs every month, it could certainly be better used elsewhere.
People on welfare do deserve to do the little extras like the zoo or a toy or a new shirt, not drugs.

ღ Diana ღ Michigan 15726 posts
Apr 25th '13
Quoting kacti:" Good. That just shows your lack of character... can't wait til Michigan follows suit with Florida, and ... [snip!] ... don't get drug tested for)... and you're broke enough to qualify for welfare, your tax liability is 0. Your point is invalid."


Not all my previous jobs were minimum wage jobs. Same with my SO, he has never worked for minimum wage. MI won't do what Florida tried and failed to do.

user banned 2 kids; Georgia 24891 posts
Apr 25th '13
Quoting ღ Diana ღ:" Not all my previous jobs were minimum wage jobs. Same with my SO, he has never worked for minimum wage. MI won't do what Florida tried and failed to do."


Michigan is already passing and has passed anti drug legislation. Like NB testing. They are moving towards it.