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user banned 3 kids; Portland, Michigan 15675 posts
25th Apr '13
Quoting Devil Duckie:" Checks for food, you ignorant fucktard! You don't get just formula. You get about 50.00 per eligible person a month. for things like milk, cheese, peas, tofu, veggies. "


I'm a fucktard because I asked a question, lmao you're pleasant.

Devil Duckie 3 kids; New York 48700 posts
26th Apr '13
Quoting chass.:" I'm a fucktard because I asked a question, lmao you're pleasant."


you're a fucktard because you go spouting bullshit and being a judgmental c**t about something you clearly know nothing about.

nothingness Arizona 3578 posts
26th Apr '13

I think it's stupid to generalize people on welfare. We pay taxes too a*****es and making less they take a lot out it seems. I'm trying my best, in school, working. I'm disgusted that the first thing people think of me is I'm a lazy fraud. I only have one child, I'm preventing another, and I mix feed cuz it's f**king hard and stressful to breastfeed and function in adult life other than parenting. Just cuz you don't qualify you wanna bash us!!! (General not you specific) f**k that. You're not any better than us. At all.

weefee 1 child; Paris, France 401 posts
26th Apr '13

We don't have WIC but it seems unfair that the rich can choose and the poor can't. Poverty in general is not a choice and people who have kids and are poor tend not to be that way because they choose to be. People lose their jobs, have their hours cut, in America particularly your employment laws are so flexible it seems like you can be sacked for a lot of stuff that here and in the UK you wouldn't be. Shit happens, sometimes you need a hand.



If people having kids on minimum wage can't afford it but can't do a better paying job should they be sterilised because they can't afford their kids? Kids taken in to care because their parents are poor? As a policy it wouldn't be workable anyway, you can't determine if someone is breastfeeding by choice or by necessity. Why do we always have to justify our 'failure' and be reminded that breast is best. Most of us know that even those that are poor.
It really is starting to annoy me, that I have to justify using formula constantly. I wanted to breastfeed but I had so many complications during labour that I saw my son for 10 minutes in the first 2 days of his life. They gave him some bottles, although they tried to limit it to prevent him getting used to the bottle. It didn't work, he refused to latch, we tried but it didn't work and that was with several lactation consultants. The fact that I couldn' t breastfeed added to my depression because I got constant remarks about the fact that I was using formula.

weefee 1 child; Paris, France 401 posts
26th Apr '13
Quoting Mrs. Grinch:" I think it's stupid to generalize people on welfare. We pay taxes too a*****es and making less they take ... [snip!] ... Just cuz you don't qualify you wanna bash us!!! (General not you specific) f**k that. You're not any better than us. At all."


:!:



I think the judgment seems to be getting worse since the crisis. It certainly has in the UK and it's started to creep in in France. I've never been on benefits etc apart from housing benefit in Paris which is available for all who earn less than 35, 000 because housing prices in Paris are extremly high but I'm not daft enough to think that those who are on benefits are living the high life at our expense.



Everyone pays taxes at some point in their life, therefore they contribut to their benefits and the amounts given are small so I highly doubt people choose to remain on it for the long term. It would be interesting to see actual statistics rather than just anecdotes to prove that people use welfare as a lifestyle choice.. There is no scientific merit to anecdotes and i'm willing to bet that the statistics don't prove the idea that the majority receiving help are lazy scroungers that use welfare as a lifestyle choice.

user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
26th Apr '13

Most SNAP participants were children or the
elderly. Nearly half (45 percent) of participants
were under age 18 and nearly 9 percent were age
60 or older.



Many SNAP participants had jobs. Over 30
percent of SNAP households had earnings in 2011,
and 41 percent of all SNAP participants lived in a
household with earnings.



The majority of SNAP households did not
receive cash welfare benefits. Only 8 percent of
all SNAP households received Temporary
Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) benefits,
and another 4 percent received State General
Assistance (GA) benefits. Over 22 percent of
SNAP households received Social Security, and
20 percent received Supplemental Security Income
(SSI) benefits given to the aged and disabled.
SNAP households had little income. About 17
percent of SNAP households had gross income
above the poverty line, while 43 percent had
income at, or below, half the poverty line. The
average household income was slightly less than
59 percent of the poverty line. Twenty percent of
SNAP households had no cash income of any
kind.



SNAP has a powerful anti-poverty effect. When
SNAP benefits are added to gross income, 13
percent of SNAP households move above the
poverty line. The impact is even greater on the
poorest households, moving 15 percent of them
above 50 percent of the poverty line.



The primary form of income among SNAP
participants shifted from welfare to work. In
1991, 41 percent of all SNAP households received
cash welfare benefits and only 20 percent had
earnings. In 2011, only 8 percent received cash
welfare, while 30 percent had earnings.

nothingness Arizona 3578 posts
26th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting weefee:</b>" :!: I think the judgment seems to be getting worse since the crisis. It certainly has in the UK and ... [snip!] ... statistics don't prove the idea that the majority receiving help are lazy scroungers that use welfare as a lifestyle choice."</blockquote>




Thank you! *claps*

user banned 3 kids; Portland, Michigan 15675 posts
26th Apr '13
Quoting Devil Duckie:" you're a fucktard because you go spouting bullshit and being a judgmental c**t about something you clearly know nothing about. "


Apparently you need to re-read the OP because I'm not the one who posted that. I read that on cafemom and re-read throughout the thread because I said that I received WIC for my first two but I'm not going to this time, idiot. :idea:

CJKB+JMB=AMB 1 child; Watertown, New York 2525 posts
26th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting kthx.:</b>" If she CHOSE to formula feed instead of breastfeed? Well, I guess that kid would go hungry and CPS would ... [snip!] ... I plan to have kids, and I don't exactly want to pay for their food. So I'll just have FS pay for it. Good deal, right?"</blockquote>




this. to consciously make the decision to ff just so you can get it for free is wrong. but i hope that dosent happen to often

I'm me 4 kids; Kentucky 3109 posts
27th Apr '13
Quoting kthx.:" Crazy. It's definitely not like that here. Anyone and everyone can get WIC in this state. Though, it's ... [snip!] ... Though, it's also super easy to get on FS and medicaid in Ohio, as well as daycare assistance and all that jazz. Not sure why."

1/2 of my family lives in OH and not all of them got WIC and they weren't "making bank"

I'm me 4 kids; Kentucky 3109 posts
27th Apr '13
Quoting Mrs. Grinch:" I think it's stupid to generalize people on welfare. We pay taxes too a*****es and making less they take ... [snip!] ... Just cuz you don't qualify you wanna bash us!!! (General not you specific) f**k that. You're not any better than us. At all."


I agree. we get WIC. My husband works 68 hrs a week and I am a full time nursing student. I don't think that we are lazy or just mooching off of the government. If someone was to tell call me lazy to my face just because I get assistance from the government that comes from the taxes that my husband contributes to I would B**** slap them! We work darn hard for what little we have. If it wasn't for my husband's previous employer going bankrupt when the economy took a turn for the worst he would be making better money and we wouldn't have needed WIC. He had to start working at a factory.

I'm me 4 kids; Kentucky 3109 posts
27th Apr '13
Quoting kthx.:" Or.... don't have children that you can't afford to feed (knowing you can't afford the formula from the beginning) :idea:"


After my inability to bf my oldest two I didn't even try with the twins. So I guess I CHOSE to FF and knew I was going to receive WIC. Our financial situation changed while I was pregnant. We had no clue my husband's company was about to go bankrupt when I got pregnant. Or that when I was on bed rest he would be laid off drawling unemployment, receiving food stamps, and WIC.
You are ignorant!

. Way, MA, United States 73779 posts
27th Apr '13
Quoting Devil Duckie:" you're a fucktard because you go spouting bullshit and being a judgmental c**t about something you clearly know nothing about. "

And you're not a c**t at all. :lol: It's interesting how pissy you get about perceived judgement but you're a judgmental shit bag on BG constantly.

kthx. TTC since Nov 2012; Cleves, Ohio 65262 posts
28th Apr '13
Quoting I'm me:" After my inability to bf my oldest two I didn't even try with the twins. So I guess I CHOSE to FF and ... [snip!] ... Or that when I was on bed rest he would be laid off drawling unemployment, receiving food stamps, and WIC. You are ignorant!"


Um. I've stated before that if circumstances happen while pregnant that prevent you from being able to afford formula -- those don't count. f**king read, you twit. I said those people who KNOWINGLY get pregnant, KNOWING they are going to formula feed, and KNOWING they will be using WIC to pay for it. You didn't know your DH would get laid off. Duh.

nothingness Arizona 3578 posts
28th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting I'm me:</b>" I agree. we get WIC. My husband works 68 hrs a week and I am a full time nursing student. I don't think ... [snip!] ... a turn for the worst he would be making better money and we wouldn't have needed WIC. He had to start working at a factory."</blockquote>




Exactly, I'm making minimum wage and my SO just got another f**king day cut. And you know what, I'm generous and give away some of the things I get because I don't drink 4 gallons of milk a month lol so I give it to people with 3 kids or something that I don't even know. I'm not mooching at all I do my part, it sucks there are people who do abuse it but that shouldn't be the first thing people think about you when you say you're getting help and then have to explain yourself to the snobs who get everything handed to them but it's still not enough.