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iSMiLeMaKe 1 child; West Palm Beach, Florida 316 posts
26th Apr '13
Quoting Autumn Whisper:" Terrorist acts require one specific thing: They are designed to terrorize the citizens. Sandy Hook, ... [snip!] ... Mass murder is just that...the intent to hurt or kill as many as possible, without a political or religious cause behind it."


Yes but the Russian was said not to have been affiliated with any groups but yet, because of his religion, he is assumed to be a terrorist and not unstable.

eKnuckles Due February 13; Florida 3471 posts
26th Apr '13

Lol yes, the news says one was just mentally unstable but the other was not.



Just like white people during katrina were 'salvaging for items' to survive and the black people were just stealing.

iSMiLeMaKe 1 child; West Palm Beach, Florida 316 posts
26th Apr '13
Quoting eKnuckles:" Lol yes, the news says one was just mentally unstable but the other was not. Just like white people during katrina were 'salvaging for items' to survive and the black people were just stealing."


Bahaha, did they really?!

Munchkin Maker 2 kids; Maryland 733 posts
26th Apr '13

Meh, I think they're equally terrorists.

Autumn Whisper 1 child; Utah 9977 posts
26th Apr '13
Quoting Let the rain fall:" Yet their supposed motives seem to be up in the air especially seeing as no group will claim them."


The younger boy said it was related to the wars in Iraq and Afganistan, according to the news sites.



No group claiming them does not change anything. They can act independent from a group, and still be "championing" a cause. It is the intent to champion a cause that designates them as terrorists.

user banned Lesbos, Greece 95211 posts
26th Apr '13
Quoting Let the rain fall:" Yet their supposed motives seem to be up in the air especially seeing as no group will claim them."


They don't have to belong to a group to have political motive.



I'm a few days out on this but last I heard, they were fairly pissed at the US government.

Big D! Due October 7 (boy); 1 child; Escondido, California 9518 posts
26th Apr '13
Quoting Let the rain fall:" I don't think random acts of violence are terrorism. I think terrorists are organized groups or cults that plan to kill X amount of people for a reason other than just being mentally unstable."

Right, they use terror to get people do do/believe what they want.

Autumn Whisper 1 child; Utah 9977 posts
26th Apr '13

Domestic terrorists are no less of terrorists simply because they were born and raised in the United States.



The younger boy was 8 when he moved here. He is a U.S. citizen as of last year. He grew up here...spent more of his life in the U.S. than anywhere else.

Big D! Due October 7 (boy); 1 child; Escondido, California 9518 posts
26th Apr '13
Quoting eKnuckles:" Lol yes, the news says one was just mentally unstable but the other was not. Just like white people during katrina were 'salvaging for items' to survive and the black people were just stealing."

Wow..

eKnuckles Due February 13; Florida 3471 posts
26th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting iSMiLeMaKe:</b>" Bahaha, did they really?!"</blockquote>



Lol yeah. I can't post the pic because I'm on my phone but you can check it out here http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/van-jones/black-people-loot-food-wh_b_6614.html
Just scroll for the picture.

iSMiLeMaKe 1 child; West Palm Beach, Florida 316 posts
26th Apr '13
Quoting Autumn Whisper:" Domestic terrorists are no less of terrorists simply because they were born and raised in the United ... [snip!] ... he moved here. He is a U.S. citizen as of last year. He grew up here...spent more of his life in the U.S. than anywhere else."


Which is exactly what I was trying to say and explain to people but they don't seem to get it. The media automatically called one a "terrorist"(way before they new where he was from, who he was, etc.) while the other was called "mentally unstable". How is that fair? It puts such a bad stigma on those people.

iSMiLeMaKe 1 child; West Palm Beach, Florida 316 posts
26th Apr '13
Quoting eKnuckles:" <blockquote><b>Quoting iSMiLeMaKe:</b>" Bahaha, did they really?!"</blockquote> ... [snip!] ... out here http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/van-jones/black-people-loot-food-wh_b_6614.html Just scroll for the picture."


:shock: dang

eKnuckles Due February 13; Florida 3471 posts
26th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting iSMiLeMaKe:</b>" Which is exactly what I was trying to say and explain to people but they don't seem to get it. The media ... [snip!] ... who he was, etc.) while the other was called "mentally unstable". How is that fair? It puts such a bad stigma on those people. "</blockquote>



Well, they knew where he was from right. I don't think you can get passed those names without trying to figure it out. It's funny how the only suspects they were investigating were muslim though lol.

Autumn Whisper 1 child; Utah 9977 posts
26th Apr '13
Quoting iSMiLeMaKe:" Which is exactly what I was trying to say and explain to people but they don't seem to get it. The media ... [snip!] ... who he was, etc.) while the other was called "mentally unstable". How is that fair? It puts such a bad stigma on those people. "


I think it was also the way it was committed, ultimately.



Sandy Hook, Aurora...yes, they were public places. But they were not televised, they were not huge events.



The Boston bombing was assumed to be terrorism because it was such a public event, with "the world watching." The site was chosen because there would be so many people there. Done during huge events, to ensure the maximum amount of people bore witness to it and were affected by it.



I don't for a second think it's fair or reasonable to automatically assume it is a "foreigner" who commits an atrocity. This country has seen plenty of domestic terrorists, and yet...most people, if you ask them what they think of as a terrorist, they are going to say someone from the Middle East region. It is not fair, no, of course not. But when is public perception ever fair? People jump to conclusions. They exclude evidence that does not match their already established perceptions. It is human nature. Still not fair, but that is human nature.

Autumn Whisper 1 child; Utah 9977 posts
27th Apr '13
Quoting eKnuckles:" <blockquote><b>Quoting iSMiLeMaKe:</b>" Which is exactly what I was trying to say ... [snip!] ... those names without trying to figure it out. It's funny how the only suspects they were investigating were muslim though lol."


Not so much funny as predictable and rather sad.



I would not have been surprised if it were an entirely domestic terrorism incident...especially considering it was in Boston on Patriot's Day. The timing consideration was linked to the Oklahoma bombings.