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speaktruth2powr 2 kids; Ontario 44961 posts
status 29th Apr '13
Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Carissa Biron:</b>" "</blockquote> Dumb comparison. ... [snip!] ... a slut you are gonna get raped?" Or was it " rapists choose their victims by what they see so be aware of what they look for?""


It actually happened at the university I attended. He said that

_______Nope_________ 23772 posts
29th Apr '13
Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Carissa Biron:</b>" "</blockquote> Dumb comparison. ... [snip!] ... a slut you are gonna get raped?" Or was it " rapists choose their victims by what they see so be aware of what they look for?""


I think the wording was that "women should avoid dressing like sluts." It's what spawned the slut walks, which are what the picture is referring to.



And really, I think even the 2nd thing is dumb. For one, it pushes off of responsibility onto women. It acts as if men are unable to control themselves. "Don't dress like a slut and you won't get raped." Except, women DO get raped, even when dressed in very modest clothing.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22815 posts
29th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting she nan igans:</b>" I think the wording was that "women should avoid dressing like sluts." It's what spawned the slut walks, ... [snip!] ... "Don't dress like a slut and you won't get raped." Except, women DO get raped, even when dressed in very modest clothing."</blockquote>




True.
I am genuinely curious about statistics on the highly subjective "dressed like a slut" and sexual attacks in rapes committed by strangers as compared with "dressed modestly or dressed like a frumpy farmer."

......... nowhere, NW, United States 25972 posts
29th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Sofia's Mummy♥:</b>" Obviously women in the Middle East are far more oppressed than in the west, but that police officer was WAY out of line and victim blaming for rape is NOT okay."</blockquote>




This.

......... nowhere, NW, United States 25972 posts
29th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting she nan igans:</b>" I think it's silly. It's trying to compare "levels" of oppression. I see that as similar to trying to ... [snip!] ... for rape culture to exist here? We should be happy that we're blamed for rape because, well, at least we get to go to school?"</blockquote>




Absolutely agree.

Nicola. (Expecting #2) Due May 23; 1 child; Huntsville, AL, United States 4533 posts
status 29th Apr '13

My thoughts.



I love Malala. I saw an interview with her on the news. She is very well spoken and is risking her life for education. I think she is a hero.



The women in the "sluts say yes" picture look very tacky. Sure, the cop was out of line but they look silly too. We have a lot more to worry about in this country than some pig headed cop who obviously needs to put his foot back in his mouth.

Sofia's Mummy♥ 1 child; United Kingdom 7331 posts
30th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Nicola.:</b>" My thoughts. I love Malala. I saw an interview with her on the news. She is very well spoken and is ... [snip!] ... have a lot more to worry about in this country than some pig headed cop who obviously needs to put his foot back in his mouth."</blockquote>




They're supposed to look a bit silly, they exaggerated the whole slut thing.



This is what gets me, is when people say 'well there are bigger problems so it's stupid to fight for something so small'
- firstly, it's not a small issue. Women get raped every day, and many of these rapes go unreported because the woman is ashamed. Why should she be ashamed? It's the man's fault, right? Of course it is, but there is always 'she shouldn't have been so drunk' or 'she asked for it' or 'don't dress like a slut'. That is victim blaming.
Did you see the CNN coverage of the steubenville, Ohio trial? They were totally sympathising with the sick bastards who repeatedly raped the underage girl and then went on to take pictures of it and videos of them laughing about it on the Internet. They were just saying how damn sad it was that their lives are over. Hardly acknowledged the victim, how HER life was over because they raped her, humiliated her, and had half her town calling her a liar.



But no, she has an education, so it's okay.



- Secondly, if we always wait until there's a 'bigger' problem to protest and take a stand against, then nobody will ever do anything.
What if Malala thought 'well, I suppose our country has bigger problems than my education, I'll not bother with my blog'?

orchidlovingmama 2 kids; Santa Rosa, California 1733 posts
30th Apr '13

They're both forms of inequality and injustice that women face today in the world. Of course women in Afghanistan face MUCH MUCH more opression than women in the free world, but that doesn't make the point on the right less significant to me. Thats like saying that because there are children starving to death in other countries that the children going hungry here in the states are insignificant. ya know?

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22815 posts
30th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Sofia's Mummy♥:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting Nicola.:</b>" My thoughts. I love Malala. I saw an interview ... [snip!] ... What if Malala thought 'well, I suppose our country has bigger problems than my education, I'll not bother with my blog'?"</blockquote>




Lol. Not educating half of a country's population because of gender is one of their county's biggest problems. I dont think there is anyone that doesn't know that.

Nicola. (Expecting #2) Due May 23; 1 child; Huntsville, AL, United States 4533 posts
status 30th Apr '13
Quoting Sofia's Mummy♥:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Nicola.:</b>" My thoughts. I love Malala. I saw an interview ... [snip!] ... What if Malala thought 'well, I suppose our country has bigger problems than my education, I'll not bother with my blog'?"

I do not watch CNN.



And I never said that they shouldn't fight for something they believe in. I said my opinion was that it was silly to be so worried about. That issue is not on the top of my list of things to "fight" for.

......... nowhere, NW, United States 25972 posts
30th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Nicola.:</b>" My thoughts. I love Malala. I saw an interview with her on the news. She is very well spoken and is ... [snip!] ... have a lot more to worry about in this country than some pig headed cop who obviously needs to put his foot back in his mouth."</blockquote>




I don't think you get it.
It's not just about what the cop said. It's about us living in a society where women are taught they shouldn't do things to get raped instead of one where we teach men not to rape. We should be able to walk down the street nude without being raped...

......... nowhere, NW, United States 25972 posts
30th Apr '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Nicola.:</b>" I do not watch CNN. And I never said that they shouldn't fight for something they believe in. I said ... [snip!] ... said my opinion was that it was silly to be so worried about. That issue is not on the top of my list of things to "fight" for."</blockquote>




Um if you were a rape victim who was blamed, you'd feel differently.
By saying its not important is basically okaying the rape culture we have.

speaktruth2powr 2 kids; Ontario 44961 posts
status 30th Apr '13
Quoting Nicola.:" I do not watch CNN. And I never said that they shouldn't fight for something they believe in. I said ... [snip!] ... said my opinion was that it was silly to be so worried about. That issue is not on the top of my list of things to "fight" for."


I did not participate in the Slut Walk to fight for my right to dress like a hooker, I participated to bring awareness to the fact that there is a massive issue with victim blaming in rape cases (no matter the gender of the victim).



As women, we are constantly told to be aware of our surroundings, don't wear skirts in public, don't wear your hair in a ponytail it makes it easier to grab, don't listen to music while you are walking, get an escort to your car......do you seriously not see an issue with that?



Where are the PSAs about NOT raping people? Where are the PSAs about acquaintance rape (which is far more prevalent than stranger rape)?

Wiggity Wack 1 child; Connecticut 10780 posts
30th Apr '13

I think the picture presents a bullshit comparison.
All of the women photographed have one very important, common message that they are putting out to the public: They don't want to live in constant fear.

Wiggity Wack 1 child; Connecticut 10780 posts
30th Apr '13

I don't like the sign that the protester is holding up. I think that "Sluts say yes." is a counterproductive message to be putting out there.