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Kiki's Mommy Due November 10; 1 child; Montana 3543 posts
9th May '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting .Colleen.:</b>" that has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that abortion does in fact control birth. It's a fact. end of story."</blockquote>



Yes it is...but only those that don't have a conscience would use it as a regular form of birth control.

Kiki's Mommy Due November 10; 1 child; Montana 3543 posts
9th May '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ღFrodoliciousღ:</b>" See, that's the beautiful thing about being pro-choice. I can be against it morally for MYSELF, and ... [snip!] ... I'm pretty sure he didn't want his people judging those they deemed to be sinners in any degree, either. (Paragraph mini-rant)"</blockquote>




I didn't say that couldn't use it as birth control.....just that they shouldn't. I am done arguing I stated my opinion and your not going to change it.

Phallus Cranium fuknutz, NM, Togo 103283 posts
9th May '13
Quoting Kiki's Mommy:" <blockquote><b>Quoting .Colleen.:</b>" that has absolutely nothing to do with the ... [snip!] ... Yes it is...but only those that don't have a conscience would use it as a regular form of birth control."


That doesn't even apply to this D&D

You stated that abortion was not birth control.

That is incorrect and individual circumstances have no bearing on the issue.

Gosloving 1 child; Washington 12831 posts
9th May '13

Well, if you have the money, and are physically, mentally and emotionally stable/strong for six or more abortions then to each it's own. Personally, I'm pro-life. Everyone else, I agree they have the right to do what they please with their bodies.

Kaleighshaleigh 3 kids; USA 5487 posts
9th May '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ღFrodoliciousღ:</b>" By saying they shouldn't and that if they had conscience they wouldn't, that's judging. And last time I checked, again... only ONE being is supposed to be judging anyone. Right?"</blockquote>




Actually God is the only one to judge eternal salvation. The bible is clear that we should be a righteous judge when it comes to people and their character. Just thought I'd clear up that misconception.

Kaleighshaleigh 3 kids; USA 5487 posts
9th May '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ღFrodoliciousღ:</b>" So, the bible says you should tell people what they should and should not do? And you should judge them ... [snip!] ... despite the fact that God gave them the free will to make those choices? How stinking hypocritical is that crap?? :lol:"</blockquote>



No, the Bible says that we should tell people what God says they should and should not do according to what we read in scripture. Then yes, we are to be a righteous judge of a persons character. Telling someone what God requires and then making a righteous judgment based on their behavior has nothing to do with hindering free will. Once someone has been told the truth concerning God, then they have the free will to do what pleases God or to do what pleases them regardless. I don't see how that is hypocritical at all. We all make judgements. When you meet someone you make judgements about them and determine rather or not you want to continue a friendship. Do you really think that you make judgements on no one?

You and me + 4 4 kids; 1 angel baby; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 4113 posts
9th May '13
Quoting Kaleighshaleigh:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ღFrodoliciousღ:</b>" So, the bible says you should ... [snip!] ... them and determine rather or not you want to continue a friendship. Do you really think that you make judgements on no one?"


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Kaleighshaleigh 3 kids; USA 5487 posts
9th May '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ღFrodoliciousღ:</b>" Oh I know I do. But those judgments don't hinder on someone's free will and their ability to do what ... [snip!] ... them to judge each other when they don't follow God's word to the letter by using that free will, is VERY hypocritical. "</blockquote>




Judgement from others doesn't take away any of their freedom to make a choice. It may make them think twice about a choice, or it may make a choice more difficult or easy, but the freedom to make that choice is always there. Informing them of things concerning God is very important so that people can make an informed decision and not do something that they will later feel guilty about because they were ignorant on the spiritual side of an issue. Regardless of what that issue is.



Keep in mind that there is a right way and a wrong way to judge. The bible says that Christians should be a righteous judge. This does not mean hate them or be cruel. ( I've seen many so called "Christians" that forget this part) We should treat everyone with love and respect like Christ, but what this does mean is that we shouldn't accept things that go against God as being right. Even if that comes off as politically incorrect.

Kaleighshaleigh 3 kids; USA 5487 posts
9th May '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ღFrodoliciousღ:</b>" I don't think religion and morals should dictate our laws and what people should be able to do. Plain ... [snip!] ... wrong way to judge. Too many people using religion as a base to judge, don't do it the right way, and that's sickening IMO. "</blockquote>




Trust me, people that judge wrongly in the name of God and saying that certain people go to Hell is sickening to me and many other Christians as well. The bible warns of false Christians that do things in the name of God that actually contradict His scriptures. Just because they call themselves Christians and practice Christian traditions does not make them Christian. The Bible says you will know them by their fruit. Meaning an apple tree will grow apples. It can't grow pears. If someone calls themselves a Christian, but never acts like it, or does things that contradict scripture, then be wary of them and please don't allow them to alter your feelings toward real Christians that do as God says and loves everyone. But keep in mind...we aren't perfect. :)

Mrs.Dani Due July 3; 1 child; 3 angel babies; Oxnard, California 10272 posts
9th May '13
Quoting Allissa Specht:" The again, quit having sex if you do not want the consequences"


No one is going to stop having sex just because they don't want kids. :roll: Sex isn't just for procreating.

CJKB+JMB=AMB 1 child; Watertown, New York 2525 posts
9th May '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Kaleighshaleigh:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting ღFrodoliciousღ:</b>" Oh I know I do. But those judgments ... [snip!] ... mean is that we shouldn't accept things that go against God as being right. Even if that comes off as politically incorrect."</blockquote>




see its not to often i see christians who dont actively try to take away someone elses right. the picketers outside of abortion clinics, and the people flooding the street protesting gay marriage, thats fine... shitty but i understand they feel they have to. but if they have an impact on weather or not it becomes legal, i have a problem with, cause thats when you take away someones rights.

* Rob's Living Dead Girl Due February 15; Royersford, Pennsylvania 2940 posts
10th May '13

I see it as a joke. Tasteless? Meh