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CJKB+JMB=AMB 1 child; Watertown, New York 2525 posts
12th May '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting MunchkinWrangler:</b>" I work at a childcare and they do this with the kids. They let them scream. I bring my son with me ... [snip!] ... start (over 10 months ago) are STILL crying themselves to sleep most the time! Clearly, it doesn't work. They are just lazy!"</blockquote>




exactly i think its just laziness. it may be a little more work but so what it should be worth ut

MunchkinWrangler 4 kids; Rīga, Latvia 46778 posts
12th May '13
Quoting Carissa Biron:" <blockquote><b>Quoting MunchkinWrangler:</b>" I work at a childcare and they do this ... [snip!] ... lazy!"</blockquote> exactly i think its just laziness. it may be a little more work but so what it should be worth ut"

Clearly it is worth it because my kid goes to sleep like a champ and all the other kids are still crying themselves to sleep. I don't understand why someone can't take a moment to go pat their back when they are falling asleep or SOMETHING. Clearly it's not working.... but their parents are all okay with it, so I guess I will just keep my mouth shut.

lolajessup Due July 25 (girl); 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Beaverton, Michigan 44057 posts
12th May '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting MunchkinWrangler:</b>" I work at a childcare and they do this with the kids. They let them scream. I bring my son with me ... [snip!] ... start (over 10 months ago) are STILL crying themselves to sleep most the time! Clearly, it doesn't work. They are just lazy!"</blockquote>



Omg I'd be livid.

MunchkinWrangler 4 kids; Rīga, Latvia 46778 posts
12th May '13
Quoting lolajessup:" <blockquote><b>Quoting MunchkinWrangler:</b>" I work at a childcare and they do this ... [snip!] ... themselves to sleep most the time! Clearly, it doesn't work. They are just lazy!"</blockquote> Omg I'd be livid."

I was. I lost my marbles and sent him home with his Daddy that day.

7 blessings so far.... Due February 3; 6 kids; Glen Burnie, Maryland 8799 posts
12th May '13

I definately think there is alot of benifit to CIO......the headache/migraine med companies & i am sure a few liquor stores benifit greatly from parents that use CIO,LOL.....
Letting a child cry for a few minutes b4 going to them can give them time to realize that you ARE coming back. Allowing them to scream/cry alone for to long can actually cause the child to vomit or pass out......

lolajessup Due July 25 (girl); 2 kids; 1 angel baby; Beaverton, Michigan 44057 posts
12th May '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting 6 blessings so far....:</b>" I definately think there is alot of benifit to CIO......the headache/migraine med companies & i am ... [snip!] ... that you ARE coming back. Allowing them to scream/cry alone for to long can actually cause the child to vomit or pass out......"</blockquote>



:D

Icup Mipharts 2 kids; Cold Lake, AB, Canada 33660 posts
status 12th May '13

Crying doesn't help the lungs. I always find it harder to breathe after lots of crying and screaming, and then I can't talk and my eyes hurt...

* Rob's Living Dead Girl Due February 15; Royersford, Pennsylvania 2992 posts
12th May '13
Quoting Carissa Biron:" Today I was talking to a group of women about the crying it out method for babies, and I was surprised ... [snip!] ... even said she does it because it helps the babies lungs get stronger O.o So I was wondering are there any benefits to CIO?"


Not sure if this counts, but I think it could be the best situation if a mother/father was getting frustrated with the baby incessantly crying to the point of losing his/her temper. It's probably best to put the baby down and leave him/her to cry while the parent steps away to calm themselves. But again, I don't know if this is necessarily letting them CIO...

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22822 posts
12th May '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Carissa Biron:</b>" Today I was talking to a group of women about the crying it out method for babies, and I was surprised ... [snip!] ... even said she does it because it helps the babies lungs get stronger O.o So I was wondering are there any benefits to CIO?"</blockquote>



I do t think its beneficial as a go-to method for bedtime. I think it's fine as a last ditch effort when all else fails. I was very anti-CIO until I had a 7 month old that just didnt sleep for more than 20 mins during the day and about 90 mins at night.



I am 100% confident that my very short need for CIO resulted in less crying than the "more gentle methods" that failed us.
I HATED trying it but saw huge results in 24 hours using the method in Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Baby by Weissbluth.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22822 posts
12th May '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting MunchkinWrangler:</b>" Clearly it is worth it because my kid goes to sleep like a champ and all the other kids are still crying ... [snip!] ... or SOMETHING. Clearly it's not working.... but their parents are all okay with it, so I guess I will just keep my mouth shut."</blockquote>




I dont know the situation you are talking about, but rubbing and patting and bouncing and singing and rocking.... Didn't work for us.

MunchkinWrangler 4 kids; Rīga, Latvia 46778 posts
12th May '13
Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting MunchkinWrangler:</b>" Clearly it is worth it because my kid ... [snip!] ... know the situation you are talking about, but rubbing and patting and bouncing and singing and rocking.... Didn't work for us."


Im talking about many babies in a daycare center, screaming themselves to sleep for a half hour. Apparently no one was available to try and soothe them any other way. Lazy as shit.



No, rocking and such doesn't always work for everyone, but most likely if they aren't going to sleep with other methods it's not because they are just trying to be a pain in your ass.... and letting them scream to sleep really shouldn't be a solution to anything. At least in my opinion....

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22822 posts
12th May '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting MunchkinWrangler:</b>" Im talking about many babies in a daycare center, screaming themselves to sleep for a half hour. Apparently ... [snip!] ... a pain in your ass.... and letting them scream to sleep really shouldn't be a solution to anything. At least in my opinion...."</blockquote>




In daycare, no way.

usernametx Texas 19748 posts
16th May '13

There seems to be a lot of fear and confusion from some parents. They think the goal is to make the baby or toddler sleep independently and often on demand and so have to leave them to CIO to acheive that. If they educated themselves they could adjust their expectations and see that the goal is to support their child through the various factors affecting sleep until the time comes where they child is sleeping through the night as they're developmentally ready.



Focusing on self care so they are able to be present and parent at night time aswel as during the day would be much healthier for the parent and child.. the goal should not be *whatever it takes so the baby/toddler sleeps alone* Night waking is normal and healthy, fighting sleep is normal, all of that stuff is just a PHASE that will pass, it is not abnormal if your little INFANT is not sleeping through yet and it's not something you should be trying to stop at all cost. SMH.



Some of the people who do it don't seem to have a very good understand of the child's needs nor do they seem to do much else in terms of tuning in to their child and adjusting things so that they would've even consider something as awful as CIO.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 22822 posts
16th May '13
Quoting Mama*AtoZ:" There seems to be a lot of fear and confusion from some parents. They think the goal is to make the baby ... [snip!] ... else in terms of tuning in to their child and adjusting things so that they would've even consider something as awful as CIO. "


Why do you think you know more than me or other parents?
You are making lots of baseless assumptions, insinuations and accusations.

usernametx Texas 19748 posts
16th May '13

My information on some parents is everything i have listened to and read from those parents who've chosen to leave their very young child to CIO. They have expectations that are widely different from most kids basic needs at that point, that is a recurring theme.