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TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23152 posts
13th May '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Stfu Squirrel:</b>" Like Carl Sagan? :D Stephen King? Ted Turner? Barack Obama? ETA: (ok, ok, you probably consider the ... [snip!] ... truth is, pot doesn't make you any dumber and although it can kill motivation, sometimes it has the totally opposite effect.)"</blockquote>




I just saw your edit.



Smoking kills usually does not help motivate. It's rare.

Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8559 posts
13th May '13
Quoting TheNuge:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Stfu Squirrel:</b>" Like Carl Sagan? :D Stephen King? Ted Turner? ... [snip!] ... opposite effect.)"</blockquote> I just saw your edit. Smoking kills usually does not help motivate. It's rare."


I disagree, as it affects people in very different ways. Plus, different strains also cause different effects.



For some people who suffer from depression, for instance, a little toke is all they might need to get up and do the things they need to do.



Like another poster mentioned about high school, I smoked every day through college (ages 27-30) and graduated at the top of my class. The harder the course, the better my grade was. Sure sometimes it made me physically lazier, but it ALWAYS made me think harder. There's something to be said for that.



I don't choose to smoke on a daily basis these days because I'm pregnant, I have a child, recreational use isn't legal where I live, and I don't want my child(ren) to grow up seeing dh or me using any substance to control our daily sanity or physical comfort. Caffeine is about as bad as it gets around here, we don't even really drink. We don't do prescription meds either. We do have experience with pharmaceuticals, and I would take weed over most prescription painkillers or antidepressants any day. Prescription meds do far more damage than weed does.



It seems to be a pretty common belief among nonsmokers that pot just makes you stupid and lazy, unmotivated, and keeps you from achieving anything. I have known a whole lot of marijuana users, and while that's true for some of them it is really the opposite for many others.

draven 5 kids; Florida 724 posts
13th May '13

I see nothing wrong with it. When I have it I vape ,it is the only thing that helps my headaches. It sucks that it is not legal here.

TheNuge 1 child; Pennsylvania 23152 posts
13th May '13
Quoting Stfu Squirrel:" I disagree, as it affects people in very different ways. Plus, different strains also cause different ... [snip!] ... I have known a whole lot of marijuana users, and while that's true for some of them it is really the opposite for many others."


I don't know you, but from what you wrote, your use of pot sounds fine.
I don't think it makes people dumb. I think it DOES sap ambition.
and, I'll bet there have been some studies that support this. I'll bet that people that grow-up and leave it behind have better socioeconomic measures than those that don't.

C.K.I Due September 10 (girl); 2 kids; Texas 13314 posts
13th May '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting TheNuge:</b>" I don't know you, but from what you wrote, your use of pot sounds fine. I don't think it makes people ... [snip!] ... support this. I'll bet that people that grow-up and leave it behind have better socioeconomic measures than those that don't."</blockquote>




I know lots of pot heads and I would say there is a pretty equal mixture of both. I know some who are lazy and have no ambition in life, And I know some (like SO) who have completely changed because of weed. He lost 60 lbs from smoking and its because it motivated him to get off his ass. He also has a much better job now. Admittedly, it makes me lazy but also better at school. When I smoked, I smoked before bed only and it didn't effect me the next day.

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
14th May '13

I used to nurse people who used medical marijana quite often (quadriplegics and MS) ... none of them ever smoked it. They all vaped or turned it into butter for cooking ... apparently it doesn't give you the same feeling of being high, though it does help with the pain/anxiety. So yeah I think someone who SMOKES it is being irresponsible when there are other ways of getting those effects without the high.

♥ laura-marie + 1 1 child; Stalybridge, United Kingdom 1339 posts
14th May '13

I only smoke at night. once baby is in bed (he sleeps right through so we don't worry) and we have a couple of joints while cooking, eating our tea and watching tv then go to bed. I don't smoke all day or if my son is awake.
the only time i have smoked in the day is when im at a friends bbq or something and all the kids are playing and i'll have a few drags with some friends round the corner. but again it's like having a beer but with less affects lol

homes cool Due August 1; 2 kids; 2 angel babies; Indiana 61627 posts
14th May '13
Quoting Destiel:" I used to nurse people who used medical marijana quite often (quadriplegics and MS) ... none of them ... [snip!] ... yeah I think someone who SMOKES it is being irresponsible when there are other ways of getting those effects without the high."


I didn't know that! Interesting.

Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8559 posts
14th May '13
Quoting Destiel:" I used to nurse people who used medical marijana quite often (quadriplegics and MS) ... none of them ... [snip!] ... yeah I think someone who SMOKES it is being irresponsible when there are other ways of getting those effects without the high."


I have smoked it, eaten it, and vaporized it. It still gets you high. It's not exactly the same each way though.



Even in a pill form, it has many of the same effects. That's the point. A relative of mine is on a THC-based pill and the other night he ate like he had just smoked three joints. He wasn't "high" but most people don't use marijuana to get wasted, they use it to chill out, center, relax, and focus. It's a muscle relaxant, a painkiller, an appetite stimulant, an antidepressant, and a mood stabilizer, no matter what form it's in. Even calling it a recreational drug is misleading. It's not anywhere near being in the same category as "real" drugs like cocaine or heroin and it's unfair to lump those all together.



It really doesn't cause problems for a mother to smoke a joint after her kids have gone to bed. If she's doing lines of cocaine, smoking crack, shooting up heroin...yeah those cause problems. Even alcohol is worse for the brain and body than marijuana is, and although red wine is thought to be good for the heart in moderation, there are no other legitimate benefits to alcohol consumption. Pot shouldn't be relied on every day as a coping "skill" any more than any other substance should, for a person who doesn't have issues beyond the aches and pains of daily life, but it's really not that big a deal. It helps people way more than it hurts them.



Oh, and I've got to add, I had FAR more ambition when I was younger and a regular pot user than I do now, as a sober housewife. I had a great job, I traveled the world, and I accomplished a number of things that I took a whole lot of pride in. These days I sit on the internet, cook, and clean. I set aside my fun lifestyle, weed and all, to settle down and breed. And holy crap, have I settled down. I'm like the opposite of how people think of pot heads I guess. I'm 100x lazier now.

ღ Diana ღ Michigan 15726 posts
14th May '13
Quoting Destiel:" I used to nurse people who used medical marijana quite often (quadriplegics and MS) ... none of them ... [snip!] ... yeah I think someone who SMOKES it is being irresponsible when there are other ways of getting those effects without the high."


Actually it does get you high. The high doesn't feel exactly the same when you eat it versus smoking it and in fact the high you get for eating it is stronger and last longer! I've smoked and I have eaten it and I can honestly say that I much prefer the high after eating a hash brownie/cookie.

The Master 2 kids; Perth, Australia 19989 posts
14th May '13
Quoting ღ Diana ღ:" Actually it does get you high. The high doesn't feel exactly the same when you eat it versus smoking ... [snip!] ... longer! I've smoked and I have eaten it and I can honestly say that I much prefer the high after eating a hash brownie/cookie. "


I've never actually tried it personally, I only know what they told me. These are people who are in acute chronic pain 24/7 though so the effect might be slightly different.