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The Blissful Six 4 kids; 1 angel baby; Massachusetts 10260 posts
May 20th '13
Quoting weefee:" I think that makes sense. It's been an interesting discussion. I've learned a lot about messianic Jews ... [snip!] ... live up to old testament rules but they believe that man is imperfect thus they cannot and that Jesus atones for their failure."


This is exactly what I've always believed.
And as far as Catholics not being Christian. Most Catholic people I know say they aren't Christian's they are Catholic. Which I personally think it's absurd. If you believe in Jesus Christ as saviour and as you've said the Holy Trinity, then in my book you are a Christian.
So yes, it very well may be an American thing.

The Blissful Six 4 kids; 1 angel baby; Massachusetts 10260 posts
May 20th '13

Also...
We have a Messianic congregation that meets in my church every Saturday. They follow the Torah and new testament. I think it's pretty neat. It's definitely a growing body of believers.

weefee 1 child; Glasgow, Î, United Kingdom 479 posts
May 20th '13
Quoting The Blissful Six:" This is exactly what I've always believed. And as far as Catholics not being Christian. Most Catholic ... [snip!] ... and as you've said the Holy Trinity, then in my book you are a Christian. So yes, it very well may be an American thing."


I wonder if it is a semantics problem like so many protestants call their branch of christianity be it baptist, presybeterain, anglican etc christian so that christian has come to mean protestant thus catholics saying that they aren't christain mean really that they aren't protestant.

The Blissful Six 4 kids; 1 angel baby; Massachusetts 10260 posts
May 20th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting weefee:</b>" I wonder if it is a semantics problem like so many protestants call their branch of christianity be ... [snip!] ... has come to mean protestant thus catholics saying that they aren't christain mean really that they aren't protestant. "</blockquote>




Could very well be a semantics thing.

MomNextDoor 2 kids; Grapevine, Texas 8351 posts
May 20th '13
Quoting weefee:" The catholic church is the original christian chuch. They worship only god/ Jesus but asks the saints ... [snip!] ... religions just as sunni and sh'iite muslims are still muslims desp
MomNextDoor 2 kids; Grapevine, Texas 8351 posts
May 20th '13
Quoting ~Julie Blue Eyes~:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Asher and Haddie's Mommy:</b>" I don't think that's true. Most ... [snip!] ... the law. It's so simple to those who believe, yet so confusing to those who don't. I've enjoyed reading your responses."


Yeah, exactly. 1 Corrinthians 1:22-24

Mom[Oh] 2 kids; Fort Wayne, IN, United States 713 posts
May 20th '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Asher and Haddie's Mommy:</b>" This is the first time I've ever heard whether or not Catholics are Christians discussed. I always thought that everyone knew that. "</blockquote>




....well when you've heard catholics call themselves Not christians....that they are catholics and not christians...their can be confusion.

MomNextDoor 2 kids; Grapevine, Texas 8351 posts
May 20th '13
Quoting Mama♡MoriYah :]:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Asher and Haddie's Mommy:</b>" This is the first time I've ... [snip!] ... you've heard catholics call themselves Not christians....that they are catholics and not christians...their can be confusion."


I think those Catholics must be confused. Lol. Maybe they meant that they were not Protestants.

weefee 1 child; Glasgow, Î, United Kingdom 479 posts
May 20th '13
Quoting Asher and Haddie's Mommy:" I think those Catholics must be confused. Lol. Maybe they meant that they were not Protestants. "


I think it is a semantics problem because european catholics don't say that they are not christian, so I wondered if maybe in America Christian is taken to often mean protestant so when they say they are not christian they mean, as you said that they are not protestant.

♡ ⛄ ❅ ♡ ❅ ⛄ ♡ ~, FL, United States 74716 posts
May 20th '13
Quoting 15 weeks with #3!:" Probably because Catholics are poly-theistic. They pray to all the saints... not just God"


That's how I view it too.

Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8560 posts
May 20th '13

I grew up in the Catholic church and have never once in my entire 36 years EVER heard a Catholic person say that they weren't Christian.



I've heard only heard Christians say that Catholics aren't Christian.



Very interesting.

Stfu Squirrel District of Columbia 8560 posts
May 20th '13
Quoting mαkαnαni:" That's how I view it too."


But it's inaccurate.
There are plenty of differences between Catholics and Protestants, but polytheism is absolutely not one of them.