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Sarah ♥ K&K 2 kids; South Land, CA, United States 118922 posts
status 30th May '13
Quoting I'm His Amy He's My Rory:" Should they? No. Do they legally? Yes."


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Minion Due September 30 (girl); 2 kids; ., GA, United States 21508 posts
30th May '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting ♥ my~boysX3+1♥:</b>" Yes a rapist has 100% full rights as any other father does. Unless of course the rights were stripped ... [snip!] ... to talk to him baby involved or not. I'm sorry I wouldn't talk to my rapest for anything!! I don't care who they are! "</blockquote>



Why in the world would anyone want to talk to their rapist? That's crazy.

Madi's*Mama Due November 2; 1 child; Holland, Michigan 7391 posts
30th May '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting Rebekah Garden x3:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting she nan igans:</b>" I say no. IMO Rape shows a man to be unfit ... [snip!] ... been too intimidated to go to the police! I feel so bad for her but I don't think her brother should be able to be involved!!!"</blockquote>



Isn't incest (s/p?) illegal on its own? And having a baby with your brother is proof of that so that situation is a little diffefent because there would be proof of something illegal.

_______Nope_________ 23772 posts
30th May '13
Quoting Rebekah Garden x3:" <blockquote><b>Quoting she nan igans:</b>" I say no. IMO Rape shows a man to be unfit ... [snip!] ... been too intimidated to go to the police! I feel so bad for her but I don't think her brother should be able to be involved!!!"


Those cases are sad, but so would cases be if a woman decided she didn't want to deal with a "dead beat dad" and then said he raped her, you know? I don't feel right stripping fathers of rights unless there is at least a public accusation (like being charged) or possibly even a conviction. It's hard to say, I'm not sure. I do know enough women sadly who would lie to get what they want in these cases, and while a man can be tried and found innocent of rape if a women were to lie, it doens't sit right that a woman could take away the rights of a father on nothing but her word.

Sarah ♥ K&K 2 kids; South Land, CA, United States 118922 posts
status 30th May '13
Quoting Minion:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♥ my~boysX3+1♥:</b>" Yes a rapist has 100% full rights ... [snip!] ... I don't care who they are! "</blockquote> Why in the world would anyone want to talk to their rapist? That's crazy."


Its not a matter of wanting to.

user banned Due December 20; Georgia 1823 posts
30th May '13
Quoting Minion:" f**k no. f**k him."


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_______Nope_________ 23772 posts
30th May '13
Quoting ♥ my~boysX3+1♥:" Yes a rapist has 100% full rights as any other father does. Unless of course the rights were stripped ... [snip!] ... to talk to him baby involved or not. I'm sorry I wouldn't talk to my rapest for anything!! I don't care who they are! "


A lot of times these are cases of abuse or "date rape" or even marriage rape. Those are the tricky times. Otherwise, in cases of stranger rape, it's rarely an issue. Most rapist wouldn't even come forward. In cases where it is your BF or husband who rape you though, that is different. Women will blame themsevles, or society will tell them it can't be rape if it was in the confines of a relationship. They'll try to work things out, or they'll blame themselves enough to think that the man made a mistake and could still be a good father.



There is a lot of grey area here for women sadly.

_______Nope_________ 23772 posts
30th May '13
Quoting Madi's*Mama:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Rebekah Garden x3:</b>" <blockquote><b>Quoting she ... [snip!] ... with your brother is proof of that so that situation is a little diffefent because there would be proof of something illegal."



Proof of incest and proof of rape are different. If incest is illegal then she'd be just as guilty as him, you know? That doesn't prove he forced her.



I'm not saying he didn't AT ALL, I'm just saying that in the eyes of the law, that isn't proof at all since she'd be as guilty as he was.

_______Nope_________ 23772 posts
30th May '13
Quoting Minion:" <blockquote><b>Quoting ♥ my~boysX3+1♥:</b>" Yes a rapist has 100% full rights ... [snip!] ... I don't care who they are! "</blockquote> Why in the world would anyone want to talk to their rapist? That's crazy."


Often they know their rapist. They might even be in a relationship with them.

CJKB+JMB=AMB 1 child; Watertown, New York 2525 posts
30th May '13

ya this girl was talking about him being around their.son, getting him.from daycare, etc. which is why everyone was saying she.was a liar. she also said that she wants to take custody away for his drug charges... then when people said thats wrong she was like "oh and he raped.me"... idk what to think

Madi's*Mama Due November 2; 1 child; Holland, Michigan 7391 posts
30th May '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting she nan igans:</b>" Proof of incest and proof of rape are different. If incest is illegal then she'd be just as guilty ... [snip!] ... he didn't AT ALL, I'm just saying that in the eyes of the law, that isn't proof at all since she'd be as guilty as he was."</blockquote>



Yeah I was thinking of that as I typed it out but thought I would still mention it.

CJKB+JMB=AMB 1 child; Watertown, New York 2525 posts
30th May '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting she nan igans:</b>" A lot of times these are cases of abuse or "date rape" or even marriage rape. Those are the tricky times. ... [snip!] ... to think that the man made a mistake and could still be a good father. There is a lot of grey area here for women sadly. "</blockquote>




damn thats awful god... to have to see your rapist because you were married or something? damn

_______Nope_________ 23772 posts
30th May '13
Quoting Carissa Biron:" ya this girl was talking about him being around their.son, getting him.from daycare, etc. which is why ... [snip!] ... custody away for his drug charges... then when people said thats wrong she was like "oh and he raped.me"... idk what to think"


IMO it's a case where you drop it. It isn't worth arguing with her.. Most likely, if there is no proof of rape, she would have a hard time claiming it now whether it happened or not. At this point, after he's been fathering the child, she'd really need to prove he was unfit as a parent.

Minion Due September 30 (girl); 2 kids; ., GA, United States 21508 posts
30th May '13

<blockquote><b>Quoting she nan igans:</b>" Often they know their rapist. They might even be in a relationship with them."</blockquote>




Yeah, but if someone raped me I would cease all contact with them. If I absolutely had to get a message to that person I would have someone relay the message. But that's just me personally.

_______Nope_________ 23772 posts
30th May '13
Quoting Carissa Biron:" <blockquote><b>Quoting she nan igans:</b>" A lot of times these are cases of abuse ... [snip!] ... sadly. "</blockquote> damn thats awful god... to have to see your rapist because you were married or something? damn"


It's actually more common then people think. It's still VERY hard to convict a person of rape inside of a marriage. It actually wasn't even illegal until the 70's I think. Before that you could rape your wife any time you want just because you were married.